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BEST OF NFL Preseason Week 3 Part 1: Shedeur Sanders Sabotaged? + Shilo dropped from Bucs

27 Aug 2025

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Chapter 1: What happened to Shedeur Sanders in the preseason?

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Chapter 2: What led to Shilo Sanders being ejected from the game?

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So please subscribe or you're going to make Ocho crack. Ocho, but first, she'll do her final preseason game. It was 3 of 6, 14 yards, 41 yards, lost on five sacks.

Chapter 3: Why was Shilo Sanders waived by the Buccaneers?

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I know you watched this game as I did. I want to hear what you have to say first. Well, first of all, listen. George Sanders didn't play bad. Chat, those that follow me on Twitter, you happy? There it is. He didn't play well. He didn't play well. He played bad. Obviously, he stunk it up. But let me clarify why he stunk it up. Offer some insight. Let me give you a little insight.

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So he comes in in the third quarter. Am I correct, Uncle? The third quarter. Yes. Okay, boom. So the players that are playing in the third quarter, Excuse me if I'm wrong. You can do your homework. Will those players make the 53-man roster?

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Chapter 4: What insights do Shannon Sharpe and Ochocinco provide on quarterback competition?

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A lot of them will not. A lot of them will not make the 53-man roster. Most of them will not. Exactly. So, again, I'm all for quarterback competition. But if you're going to put him in a situation that is not advantageous to him and competing at a high level, boom. Let's give him a chance. Let's give him a chance with the play calling.

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You know you have an offensive line that isn't playing that well. So what do we do? Why not just play the short game so he can get the ball out of his hands very fast to run a competent goddamn offense? Purposely running plays that are 10, 12, 15-yard routes, knowing damn well the goddamn offensive line is not going to be able to hold up is ridiculous. It's clear.

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I played football for a very long time. I played in the NFL at a very high level for a very, very long time. In a situation like that, when it comes to the threes and fours that you're playing with that aren't going to be on the squad and not going to make the team, Give your quarterback a chance. Okay, you know what? You know they can't hold up that long? Let's play quick game.

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Chapter 5: How do the hosts evaluate the performance of the Cleveland Browns QB?

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Let's play quick game just against your door in a goddamn rhythm. But no, you come out, call the regular offensive plays that are very long, damn near play action if he was under center, knowing they take a while to develop, knowing good and goddamn well the O-line and the people you have out there right now are not going to be able to hold up.

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Outside of that, Shadur has to be better in understanding that the offensive line that you're working with right now is not adequate. Get the ball out your hands. Get the ball out your hands. But he's holding the ball for one reason. He's holding the ball because the goddamn players aren't open.

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He's waiting for things to develop, which is why he's holding the ball, and trying to make something happen by holding on to it, by scrambling, moving, obviously running out of area, running out of real estate, and being sacked. I'm not sure what game you guys are watching. Again, I state, Shadur did play bad. He did.

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But why he played bad is clear as day if you understand the game of football and what he had to work with. Kevin Stefanski, not let Shadur come back in the game to finish the two-minute drill. Oh, I've never seen that before. I've never in my life ever have seen anything like that before. What are we doing? What are we doing? No disrespect to Snoop Huntley.

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Snoop is probably not going to be on the team. He's probably not going to be on the team.

Chapter 6: What factors contribute to a quarterback's success in the NFL?

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So I'm not sure what you were waiting to look. Snoop was on the team simply because quarterbacks were injured. So they brought in the extra body. I not allow the players that are competing for a job. In this instance, Shador Sanders, the finish off the two minute drill. What are we doing? Who makes that call? He makes that call. Why? Because I want the last thing people to see.

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I want the last thing for people to remember is the mistakes and the sacks that happened and not give him a chance to redeem himself. Because I think probably what would happen, okay, we can't have Shadur come in here and finish this two-minute drive and go down and get a touchdown. We don't want that. So we're going to leave him on the sideline so he leaves a bad taste in those mouths.

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So now there's nothing that they can say. There's nothing that they can say because now you've got a small sample size of him playing with people that are probably not going to be on the team and their bio on Twitter is going to say former Man, come on, man. But OK, I can't wait to hear your piece. And in chat, for those of you who are listening and watching, I'm not making any excuses for him.

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He played bad.

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Chapter 7: How does the legacy of a player's family impact their career in the NFL?

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He played bad. But I can tell you why he played bad. I mean, if you know the game of football and understand the game of football, understand that those that are in there with him during that time, I'm not going to be able to. Go ahead, man. I agree with everything you said. He did play bad and.

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You and I, we come out here and we're on, we talk four or five nights a week, sometimes six nights a week. We've gone six straight nights. We've gone nine straight days before. And what we do, we tell it like it is, T-I-S. Like my grandma say, boy, tell it like it T-I-S-T is. We tell it like it is. Shador did not play well today. He played awful. Everything that you said is true.

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Shador, you know this offensive line is not competent enough to give you protection. And I understand it says, Ocho, I'm in competition. I saw what Dylan Gabriel did with the guys that's probably going to be on the team. I'm trying to match that. But what happened is, is that they didn't give him the necessary pieces in order to match this.

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Chapter 8: What are the implications of being a rookie in the NFL?

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If you want me to fight, if you want me to win a war, give me the weapons. You can't expect me to win a modern war with muskets and cannons. They use drones now. They use stuff with precision, pinpoint accuracy. So you're expecting me to win a modern game and you're giving me old time. That won't work. So Shadur has to do a better job of getting the ball out of his hands. Ocho, he has some time.

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It's okay. Coach, hey, that ain't my game. That's Lamar Jackson. That's Josh Allen. That's Jalen Hurts. That's their game. Buying time like that. Shadur has in a pocket. He can move side to side. But... He doesn't have that ability, that escapability, like these other quarterbacks, like the four I mentioned.

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I don't understand why you would let Snoop Huntley take the two-minute unless he's going to be one of the four quarterbacks that's going to be on your roster. You give that to Shador. I agree with what you said because you said, look, we've seen guys play bad, be great in the two-minute drill, and you forget they played bad the entirety of the game.

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I don't know what's inside Kevin Stefanski's head. Maybe he's like, hey, I wanted Snoop, you know, we're going to end up releasing him and, you know, we wanted him to go. Look, Snoop Huntley's been in the league for five years. He started several games for the Ravens when Lamar Jackson was hurt. Hell, he started a postseason game.

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So this notion that you doing him some type of favor when the man has been in the league four or five years, he started six, seven games in his career. He started a postseason game. It's just disingenuous. With all that being said, I agree. The offensive line wasn't very good. And the one thing that a coach used to always tell me, he'd say, son, don't make a bad play worse.

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You see your offensive line break down, Shador, don't make a bad play worse. Don't run around and lose five. Don't lose ten. He got sacked five times, lost 41 yards. Fumble the ball. Come on. You got to be better than that. And I understand when you're in competition, Ocho, I'm trying to compete.

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So I'm going to scratch, claw, and do whatever I think is necessary that's going to help me put me in an advantageous situation so I can compete, so I can win. But... I don't get what they did, why they did it. Some things is offered without explanation. Some things you and I can't explain. Even though with the 30 plus years between us of NFL experience and a number of Pro Bowls and all pros...

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Both of us are in our team's respective ring of fame. Some things we just can't answer because we are not in Kevin Stefanski's hands. We don't. Here it is, Ocho. Here's Kevin Stefanski not letting Shador run the two-minute drill at the end of the game with the Browns. Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

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Kevin, it was obviously a bit of a rough second half for Shador and the entire Browns offense. But, like, why didn't you keep him in for a two-minute drill? Why did you decide to put Tyler in? Obviously, we didn't play great as an offense in the second half. That's never on one person. So we can be better in a bunch of areas. It just felt like we wanted to give Snoop a last draft.

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