Deebo & Joe - Part 2: Steelers Disrespecting Joey Porter Jr.? + Harbaugh on Chargers Upset Loss
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Why are the Steelers hesitant to give Joey Porter Jr. a large guaranteed contract?
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you get your podcasts. What kind of guarantee would you think he would work?
With Joey Porter Jr., I think if he goes to the open market, it's a difference between what the Steelers are going to try to do and what every other team, I think, in the NFL do. When we talk about guaranteed money, this is the only organization that doesn't really do it. The only dude that they've been giving the guaranteed money to is T.J. Watt. In the past, TJ Watt has signed the four in 2021 when he signed four years, 112 million, they gave him 80 million guaranteed. And in his last extension, he signed three years, 123 million with $108 million guaranteed. That is it. And T.J. Watt has been first team all pros, set and sack records and all of that stuff. So he has the stats, the accolades to go with it.
So I think that's the one. The next one that's got the most guaranteed is D.K. Metcalf. a recent deal where DK got four years, 132 million with 60 million guaranteed. The Steelers normally only give that first year of signing bonus guaranteed contract. And then the rest of your first year, basically is guaranteed from the Steelers. They give you your signing bonus, and that's what your guaranteed portion is. So with Joey Porter Jr., if it's around, if they're saying $33 million
for
the Steelers, that's just like one year. So it's basically going to get a one-year deal, and the Steelers, they normally pay it out. Cam Hayward, he signed his first deal in 2015 with six years, $59 million. with 15 million guaranteed. His second deal in 2020, four years, 65 million with 26 guaranteed. So it's basically, you can get up to the two years of your contract guarantee, but they don't do more than that. With Witherspoon, that's the first three years of his contract. Because if you're making $30 million a year, 30, 60, 90, it's right around 100. And then he has two more years left on his deal. So it's a five-year contract with three of those years are guaranteed. So basically, Witherspoon's planning a three-year, $100 million contract fully guaranteed.
guaranteed with two years on the back end. With Joey Porter Jr., if he signs a four-year deal, the Steelers are looking like, you look, you're signing a four-year deal. You're going to get your first year guaranteed. And in the next three years, you're on the squad making around 20, let's say $25 million a year, average price per year, but it's not guaranteed. And with Joey Porter Jr., if you go to a different team, they will be able to give you those higher contracts because teams normally do it. But the Steelers, in their history, they only give up normally the first year guaranteed, maybe two. So with Joey Porter, his number, if you go to the open market, it's going to be right around that number you're looking for.
Around $90 million guaranteed, depending on the length of the contract. But with the Steelers, that's not something that they're looking to do. So it's like... It's tough. It's tough because- So
where do you see his guarantee being as far as what you would do? What I would do? A worst case scenario. What's your bottom?
Bottom line, I would go around the- If it was a four-year deal, I would do four years. It would look basically like TJ Watt's deal. I would want him to get around four years, 112 with 80 guaranteed.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay. So, if that's the case, and they're saying it's the guarantee, 33, I don't see him signing for 33. I don't see nobody actually going for 33, especially when you look at the market right here.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Why are the Steelers hesitant to give Joey Porter Jr. a large guaranteed contract?
0:00–5:57
2
What would a fair contract look like for Joey Porter Jr. compared to other NFL stars?
5:57–12:10
3
How could the Steelers use franchise tags or trade options for Joey Porter Jr.?
12:10–17:33
4
What is the impact of Carson Wentz’s $100k roster bonus on his contract outlook?
17:33–22:18
5
How will Isiah Pacheco’s back surgery affect his season and the Vikings’ plans?
22:18–26:53
6
Why does Jim Harbaugh regret not playing starters in the preseason after the Chargers loss?
26:53–32:08
7
What lessons did Harbaugh learn about preseason reps and roster decisions?
32:08–36:08
8
What were the highlights and fan questions from the Super Chats segment?
36:08–43:21
Speakers
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