Deebo & Joe - Shedeur named Pro Bowler?! Who will coach the Browns? Joe Brady named Bills next HC
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Welcome back to this episode of Deebo and Joe. I'm your host, James Deebo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Please make sure you like and subscribe and download wherever you get your podcasts at. Joe. What up? How you doing today?
Brother Deebo. I'm doing great. I'm doing good. My boy Shador is in the Pro Bowl, so I'm happy for him. Yes, yes, definitely. What do you think about that? So look, it's a big thing about the Pro Bowl now though, Deebo, honestly. I don't think, I'm happy, so I don't want to, I'm not going to knock Shador, but I think that people don't take the Pro Bowl, the players just don't take it as serious right now. You know what I'm saying? Like people bowing out, like all the quarterbacks. Once you get in, I know when I first came to the league, getting into the Pro Bowl was something I wanted to do. Huge. That was one of the biggest accomplishments, knowing that you were going to be a Pro Bowler. I remember just watching Deion, watching Champ, watching all of the dudes just going into that game and just being able to be the all-star, like the all-star game.
You know what I'm saying? Like that was just something that I always wanted and I wanted to be recognized as a Pro Bowler. I think now it's just getting a little watered down, basically because it's a lot of dudes. If you don't make it, it's injuries, it's Josh Allen didn't go, it's like Herbert, you know what I'm saying, Drake May, the Super Bowl players that can go, the Super Bowl team. So it kind of just gets knocked down.
How did Shedeur Sanders get named a Pro Bowl replacement and why are fans split?
I think for Shador to be able to get in, listen. Huntley got in. Tyler Huntley got into the Pro Bowl. He only played five games. He threw for 658 yards, two touchdowns, and like three picks. And he still made the Pro Bowl in 2023. So if we're going to knock Shador for going to the Pro Bowl, we can't knock him. Like, It wasn't – it just – it makes it look watered down, obviously. I'm not going to knock him. I'm happy for him that he made it. He did go out there and perform. But it just goes to show it's a lot of people that are injured. It's people – the players just aren't taking it as serious as they used to. And I think that that's kind of why some people are hating because it's like, you know, he played – he started seven games.
He played eight. His number is 1,400 yards, seven touchdowns, ten picks. It's nothing to – You know what I'm saying? It's not like, oh, my goodness, that was great numbers. But when you look at it, all the people that bowed out, all the players that were able to go to the Pro Bowl, like, no, I'm not going to play because it's flag football now. You know what I'm saying? It's not like it used to. The dudes aren't going out there. I haven't been watching the Pro Bowl. You know what I'm saying? It's just not what it used to be. I remember when you used to watch, you used to love it. You knew you were going to get some competition. You were going to get people hitting. It was something to watch. Now it's just the real thing is all pro.
If you get AP All-Pro, Pro Bowls are still good.
Why do Deebo and Joe say the Pro Bowl feels 'watered down' today?
You want to get those on your resumes. You want to be able to have those just because once it's all said and done, it looks good. How many times did you go to the Pro Bowl if you want to have your fight for the Hall of Fame? It just looks good on your resume. But as of now, it's starting to get super watered down because players aren't taking it as serious. A lot of dudes are bowing out. You know what I'm saying? I can see why people are like, man, looking at Shador, like, I don't think he's a Pro Bowler. I don't think he deserves to be in there. But when you look at it, how many people are really bowing out of the Pro Bowl? The guys that are nominated early, I don't think, are taking that serious. And if you get to look and see, like, did the certain players did?
I would look and see, like... Who, the other quarterbacks, Patrick Mahomes, he's out. He's in the AFC. Daniel Jones, hurt, surgery. Bo Nix, hurt, surgery. Trevor Lawrence, they asked him, did he want to be in it?
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–1:35
2
How did Shedeur Sanders get named a Pro Bowl replacement and why are fans split?
1:35–2:57
3
Why do Deebo and Joe say the Pro Bowl feels 'watered down' today?
2:57–16:01
4
How did former players describe the Pro Bowl voting process and its flaws?
16:01–29:01
5
Why are voters and media criticized for Hall of Fame and award selections?
29:01–51:46
6
Why are top coaching candidates turning down the Cleveland Browns job?
51:46–1:02:13
7
How could Jim Schwartz or internal candidates impact the Browns' locker room?
1:02:13–1:10:12
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