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Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Kenny Pickett TRADE to the Raiders + to Terry McLaurin’s $96M DEAL
26 Aug 2025
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What are the implications of Kenny Pickett's trade to the Raiders?
I say, yo, boy, Eli Ocho, boy, you tripping, boy. You got to save your legs for Sunday. I say, T, I'm going to be all right. But this is how I've always done it. I always take the scout team so I give the number one corners the best look depending on who they're seeing. It's like, boy, you better than me because I couldn't do that. Yeah.
Early, you know, I would take a couple, you know, things like want to get some work or something. But as I got older, I started getting year five, year six. Nah, I ain't got nothing for you. I didn't know. My first time thinking there was something wrong with it, once T.O. got there, the Cincinnati was telling me, listen, you need to scale back a little. You need to tone it back.
Do what you do with the ones when we're up offensively and you go. You go. Right. Give it everything. I'm getting seven hard reps. But plus, Ocho, you're taking one-on-ones, too. See, I was the only tight end that took one-on-ones. I never ran routes against linebackers or anything like that. I ran routes against the YBs. So I'm getting that, and I'm getting my reps.
So once we got through, I do like five, six plays, a nine-on-seven. Mike said, 84, go down and get some work on one-on-one. Okay? Because, you know, during the course of some games, I split out wide. I'd be in the flex position. But... This is your opportunity. If I could tell any rookie anything, give them any advice, when you're running scout team, that is your Sunday. That is your game.
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday is your Sunday. You approach it like that. You like the – hey, man, take it easy. No, I ain't taking it easy on nothing. When they cut that film on, they're going to see number 81 busting his ass because I ain't going home. Because you take it easy.
You want to let, okay, hey, bro, I understand that you a vet, and you're 10 or whatever the case may be, but I'm going 1,000 miles an hour. It's hard as God to let me. And the ball is going to be coming to me too? Oh, yeah. And they're like, hey, son, he's a rookie. So what you think they guys are going to do? More than that. That's for sure. I don't even know what I'm doing.
I'm just following the, hey, I just see the circle. Hey, that's where the ball going. Hey, let me get that right there. Every time. Before they got hip to it, they started running. They didn't realize that where the circle was, that's where the ball was supposed to go. They're like, all right, go ahead, man. They running dummy routes. I'm kidding. I'm just getting them all.
Dylan Gabriel was seven years old when Flacco made his NFL debut. Shador was six. That's crazy. 18 years in the league. Crazy. Dylan Gabriel, 25? God damn! Good or bad? Bro, you go to college at 17, 18. If you play four years, you're 21, 22. You play five years, you're 22, 23. He's 25. Hold on, hold on. What you mean is that good? Wait a minute, hold on. How old is Bo Nix? Didn't Bo Nix stay?
Bo Nix, 102. I think it's good. It's good to stand back like that. Coach COVID sent everybody back to Ocho. Coach COVID. Remember you got that extra year for COVID. Huh? Yeah, hey, well, I don't know if they do it, but there wasn't no red shirt going on in black college when I was in school, so I don't know if they might red shirt now, because we ain't had no money.
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Chapter 3: How does Terry McLaurin's new contract impact the Commanders' Super Bowl chances?
And so, and I agree with you. You were talking about this, like, man, I just hate when these hold out because then you run the risk of soft tissue because you haven't pushed your body and they won't, they, hey, hey, take these next couple of rounds. Like, nah, bro, let me build up to it. Let me build a little callus. Let me build up to that, bro. Hey, don't push me too hard, too fast.
Because groins, hamstring, quads, adductors, adductors, but I, but I'm glad, uh, scary Terry got this deal done. Um, you know, Hey, he got, he got what he wanted. He got 30 million, uh, signing bonus. Um, he was trying to get that, uh, DK. Cause I think DK got 60 million guaranteed. So he was kind of looking for, Hey, look, bro, you straight. You good. You straight. Yeah.
Hey, that, that 15, you're a third round pick. Uh, If you took care of your money, this right here, just to sign him on as a loan, you should be good. Even before you even get to the big money that you're going to start making next year, you should be straight. He seems like a guy that has his head – On straight, he'll do good with his money, but I'm glad Washington. I always like that, Ocho.
I like when teams reward their players. I do. Guys that you know. I mean, Cincinnati, they drafted you. They saw you. They know your work habits. They know what you do. Yeah, absolutely. I hate, I don't like. So let me get this straight. I've been here four or five years. You hard-tied me, but come free agency, you go get this joke in here. You don't know what you like.
You don't know what his practice habits is. You don't know anything about the guy. But you go give him a boatload of money, you see me every day busting my ass and then you hard time me about my paper. Well, that's crazy. I'm like, bro, damn. That's crazy. But it's nice to know y'all got some money. So when I go knocking on the door next year, I don't want to hear nothing.
I don't want to hear no excuses. At all. I don't want to hear nothing, though, Joe. But Jamar Chase is the highest paid at $40,000. And then you got Jetta. But there's a big gap between who's going to be able to fill that gap? Who's going to be available, Ocho, to go in between that 35 and 40? Or who pole vaults over Chase? Puka Nakua? No. No. It's going to be a minute.
It's going to be a minute, huh? You got neighbors. You got Brian Thomas Jr. It would probably be neighbors. Neighbors or Brian Thomas Jr. ? If anything, it would probably be neighbors. Brian Tomlin Jr. might fall right up under that. Right up under that. But the next person who I say neighbors might get maybe 42, 43. See, Chase had the perfect storm. Because he had this in a contract year.
So he got the triple crown in a contract year. So if you give him what he's asking for, maybe you get him for 35, 36, 37. But now since you didn't, you got to pay a tax. They bet against him. They bet against him. That's what they do. It happens all the time. I wouldn't. You know why I wouldn't bet against him? Because his best friend is the quarterback. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Hey, he going to get it to him. Yes. He got it to him, too. Hey, I'd have sent him a Richard Mille. I'd have got him something real nice. Yeah, for sure. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Nico Collins already got paid? I think he did. Okay, okay. Yeah, so it would be one of the young bulls. I don't know if they get to 40, but Malik Nabors is – They might because of the time, Ocho.
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Chapter 4: What did Dak Prescott predict for the Cowboys' offense this season?
The Bears say, nah, if somebody else can catch for 300 yards, get 30. But it won't be him. You ain't touching it. And guess what? T.O. went crazy. T.O. went crazy. And as they say, the rest is history. But it seems to me, Ocho, and we're going to talk about this a little bit with the Bengals. is that the team has all the leverage. Guys are not willing to miss a million dollars.
Guys are not willing to miss $800,000, $2 million. Guys are not willing to miss that kind of money, aren't you? So although they might be in the right, I have a great foundation to stand on. I need to be compensated because I've outperformed the contract. I know this. You know this. If I had underperformed the contract, you would have released me. So I've outperformed the contract. Compensate me.
But very few guys are willing to risk. Now, I wouldn't miss the whole season. I would come back eight games because I want to get accredited. Because if you miss the whole season, you lose accreditation. You don't get credit for that season. So you got to get at least eight games, Ocho, in order to get credit for the season. But, Ocho, guys ain't really trying to miss no $9, $10, $12 million.
So... And so that's the leverage that the teams have. And they know it. They know you're not going to miss that money. See, Jared knows. Jared said, all that. Jared going to go to the bank and say, hey, check this out. I'm going to be a little slow this month. So I'll probably catch y'all in October. OK, Mr. Jones. Because they saw Jared just got a check for 432 in March. Absolutely.
So they'll put that down the road. I can't go to my kid's school and say, you know, I'm a little behind this one. No, no, no, Mr. Sharp, we're going to need that $3,000 childcare. We're going to need that $15,000 for school, private tuition. They'll give those guys the benefit of the doubt.
Just like us, we're in situations, Ocho, that we get things from financial institutions that normal people couldn't go do. I understand. I'm not here trying to tell you. I'm just saying there are certain things that they'll allow us to do, knowing who we are, knowing the financial situation that we're in. They're going to be a little bit more relaxed.
But guys, they just can't afford to leave that kind of money on the table. And it's been going on for so long, guys. They fight it as long as they can. They do hold in, but you know, Ocho, at the end of the day, like I said, I just can't see a situation where Michael Parsons is going to leave $1.3 million on the table. Hey, I don't know. Hey, because think about it, $1.3 million and Texas.
Yeah, I know, but still, I don't know. Because if you fold here, if you fold here, then that's your leverage. Then you don't get another. Didn't Jerry tell you? We got him under contract for three more years. He has no leverage. He's not going to play with him like that. He's not going to play with him like that. Did you see Jerry slide to the front of his chair when he talked to Stephen A.?
When somebody slide to the front of their chair... They mean business, huh? Okay, okay. They mean business. Listen, in a conversation like that, when it comes to money and you slide forward or when you're playing video games, this is very important. I know you don't play video games, but the chat can attest to this.
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Chapter 5: What are the details of Trey Hendrickson's revised contract with the Bengals?
And I'm telling you what's going to happen. I'm going to see y'all boys in February. I'm going to see y'all. Book your tickets now. February. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you now. Book it now. Book your tickets to San Francisco right now. I don't know who we're going to play. I know one thing. The AFC North goes through Cincinnati.
The AFC North goes through Cincinnati. The franchise tag is the average of the top five. So that might be. Let's go. TJ Water, the highest paid at $41 million. Miles Garrett at $40 million. Danell Hunter, $35.6 million. Max Crosby, $35 million. Nick Bosa, $34 million. So you get 150% raise or the average of the top five players at that position. So he'll be somewhere around 30. I don't know.
That might be about 37. Because if you add 41, 40, it might be about 36, 37. If they franchise them, I don't see that. Listen, we're not going through this again. We're not going through this. Well, if you franchise them, all that money is on the cap because you can't prorate it because that's just for lump sum money. It's not like a signing bonus.
You can prorate it over the life of the contract, three years, four years, five years. When you franchise a guy, that's 30, whatever that is, that number is, that goes on the cap this year. That's a hard cap to hit. Yeah, don't be mad. Hey, listen, I'm telling you now. I know I have Ravens fans in the chat. I know I have Steelers fans in the chat. I know I have Browns fans in the chat.
I love y'all. I love y'all dearly. You mean a lot to me. But I'm telling you, the AFC North is going through Cincinnati. Book it now. I'm telling you right now. It's going through, what you call them? It's going through Baltimore. Come again? Come again? It's going through Baltimore. Going through 95. Hold on. Check your mic. Something wrong with your mic. I can't hear you. 95. All right.
All right. Okay. Hey, listen. You're going to be sad. You're going to be upset. You're going to be sad. You're going to be upset. Who they? Who they? Who they think they're going to beat them Bengals? Who they? Everybody. Everybody. Everybody going to beat them Bengals. Nobody. All I know, I was saying last year, when they? When they? When they going to win another game? When they? When they?
Last year, understand, we started our season off slow. We had a little blunder. We started off slow. We start out the gate 0-2. We lost to the Patriots. There's no reason we should have lost that game. I think if I'm not mistaken, the Patriots might have won. How many games the Patriots won last year? What, four? I know they won one game for sure.
I don't know how many they won after that, but I know they won one game. What helmet is that? You're a Bronco. You're a Bronco. Come on. Hey, listen. That's like, you know what? I was dating this girl for two weeks and you're like, you claiming her. That's what that is. You're Baltimore. You're Baltimore presence in rain. I dated a girl for two years. That's still the honeymoon phase.
That don't even count. That don't even count. That don't even count. Hey, you talk about two years. Two years, you don't even know each other yet. You don't even know each other yet. You still getting to know each other. We went to Bali. Where else we go? Nowhere. Nowhere. Turks and Caicos? No. Absolutely. We went to the Amalfi Coast? Seychelles? In two years?
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