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Nightcap Hour 2: BYU ROUTES Colorado + Is Time for COACH PRIME to leave? + Ball Boy CRASHES OUT on Sidelines! + Bengals INTERESTED in RUSSELL WILSON? + Ryder Cup DISAPPOINTMENT

28 Sep 2025

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Chapter 1: What happened in the BYU vs. Colorado game?

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It seems like just yesterday that the Two Guys Five Rings podcast was in Paris for the Olympics. And now we're heading to Milan for the 2026 Milan Cortina Olympic Winter Games. I'm Bowen Yang. And I'm Matt Rogers. You are the pan-Mediterranean icon. And I've always said that.

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Order your copy of the New York Times bestseller Shot Ready What's up? It's Cam Jordan. I'm back with Season 3 of your favorite podcast, the Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast. Tap in every Wednesday to hear conversations with my friends and stars from the NFL, the sports world in general, and entertainment about anything from teams and players making waves to pop culture.

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And I'll take you inside my journey through my 15th season in the NFL. Looking forward to you joining me this season, the season of more, on the Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast. Catch new episodes every Wednesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We'll talk with skaters like Bobby Delfino on pushing style, culture, and the conversation forward.

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Thank you. You break down the door, sick, now, like, hold the door for everyone. I believe in that solely. So listen to Good Luck With That on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Ah, with a chance to win the game, Caden Salter threw a pick with 50 seconds remaining, and BYU wins the game 24-21. Look. Damn. The Buffs are 1-7.

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Hold on, let me, hold on, let me, let me, let me pull this game up. Because, again, I don't know what's going on. They're going to have to go get some linemen. They're going to have to go get some D linemen, Ocho. Because guess what? Again, they can't stop the damn run. You live and die. You live and die in the trenches. You live and die in the trenches.

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That is the only thing that separates the Power 5 schools from everybody else is the fact that In them trenches, offensively and defensively, you got some hogs that can really go and can really play. If you can't stop the run, you dead in the water. You're going to lose every game. It doesn't matter who you're playing. You can be playing the sisters of the North.

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If you ain't got none up front, they're going to beat you. 36 rushes, 206 yards given up. A touchdown. Hell, they ran like a handoff to the wide receiver and then nobody touched him with 32-yard touchdown and nobody touched him until he got to the two. Hold up. Didn't BYU got a quarterback number 47? That should be illegal. Ain't no way I believe. What number is the quarterback?

Chapter 2: Why is there speculation about Coach Prime leaving Colorado?

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Johnny, you got to have the personnel. You got to have them dogs. At least two or three of them. We wouldn't even be talking about Colorado if Prime wasn't there. They wouldn't even be nowhere on the radar. This ain't the Colorado, the 2000s, or the 90s, or whatever. 90s. This is not Coach McCart, the rest is sold. No, they had players. They had a bunch of first-round draft picks.

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Look at Alfred Williams, Canavis McGee. They had Cordell was there, and they had Rashawn Salaam, and they had Deion Figures. They had Chad Brown. No, they had players. They had players. They had Eric Biennium, J.J. Flanagan. Westbrook, Michael Westbrook. Yes, Ray Carruth. They were loaded. Go back and look at the offensive linemen that they had. They were loaded.

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There's a reason why they won a national championship. There's a reason why they put foot in Nebraska when Nebraska was really, really good on Thanksgiving or the day after Thanksgiving. Excuse me. No, they don't have that level of talent. And they're not going to get that level of talent because you don't have the resources to get, you know what I'm saying?

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If you can't do it with time, you can't do it with no one. No, they don't have them. Look, when you go into the grocery store, all the stuff that they want you to get is eye level. The really cheap stuff is on the bottom or on the top. Everything that they want you to purchase is right there in your eye level. You can just reach and grab it. Right.

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Chapter 3: What incident occurred with the Louisville Ball Boy?

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We got a lot of bottom of the barrel over there. The really top players are at the top, and they don't have a stepladder to reach up there and get it. I don't know if y'all been in the grocery store lately, but go in the grocery store and look eye level and see if they got all the name brand stuff. Not the stuff that's in paper, the cereal that's in cellophane bags.

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They got the box, the Kellogg, the post, the good stuff. You see, right? You walk in, it's outlet. There, let me grab this right here. Let me get this right here. All the cooking sauces, all the oils. Right there, right there. All the good soda. Right there, right there. All the good water. Yeah. Right there, right there. In arm's reach. It's not like that in football.

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The really good players are up there. You know? You have to reach up. You have to have reach up to get them. Yeah. Or you have, excuse me. Can you hand me that son? You know, I'm in the grocery store and the old lady, excuse me, son. Yes, ma'am. Can you hand me that? Sure. Hey, but the funny thing about it too, about those things that are not an arm's reach.

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You know who it would take for Colorado to change their program around? Who? It would take for one of the Saudis to be interested in Colorado for some reason and go buy up all the players that come there and transfer. Yeah. That's about it. That is about it. There's only so much you can do coaching-wise. There's only so much you can do. So they're just screwed forever. Man, listen.

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You know when you rub your head. Yeah, look, it's hard when, I mean, Colorado might have, what, three, four million dollars in IL, and then you got other teams like Ohio State got 25-30, and you got teams that got 15-20, and you got teams that got 20-25, and you got teams that got 10-15. You can't compete. It's, it's just like racing NASCAR. Yeah. Look at the team. They got the money.

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You look at Penske, you look at, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Joe Gibbs. Yeah. And you notice that you look at Jack, you look at Jack Roush. Mm-hmm. And I'm glad you just said that. You notice when it comes to NASCAR or it comes to F1, the teams that have the most money, you do notice that they always consistently winning or always in the top, always in first. Yes. Every year. Every year.

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Ocho, you know how you know who got the good cars? Go look at their cars. When you go see a car that got like two or three decals on it, they're going to be in the back. You go to the track and you see decals everywhere on the hood, on the bumper, everywhere. The cars even sound different. I don't know if anybody's ever been to a NASCAR race. Go listen to a Chase Elliott car.

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Listen to Danny Hamlin's car. Listen to Bubba Wallace's car. Now go listen to somebody that's not with Jordan, that's not with Roush, that's not with Joe Gibbs, that's not with Rick Hendricks. Yeah, it's different. Listen to Rick Hendricks' cars how they sound. Listen to Joe Gibbs' drivers' cars how they sound.

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We always said and we always knew there would be perils of the NIL and the changes that came with it. There would be casualties of war in the changes that were made just based off what your bankroll is. If I walk into a casino and I got two grand, my options are limited for what I can win. If I walk in and my bankroll is $24 million, I got some fuck around money to go on.

Chapter 4: Which teams are interested in Russell Wilson?

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Forever. Forever. Johnny, thank you for joining us tonight. Make sure you go subscribe to Johnny Manziel's podcast. It's called Glory Days with Johnny Manziel. Johnny, thanks for your time. Thanks for stopping by. We'll see you next week. I love you guys. I'm sorry. I'm getting on my time. Nevertheless, more great football next week. More great talk with the boys.

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For everybody out there, tune in to Nightcap. They do this every week. The best content online. These two are special, and I'm glad to be a part of it. Love you, fellas. We thank you for being a part of it.

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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the Ryder Cup for the USA team?

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Appreciate you. Johnny Manziel, go check out his podcast Glory Days with Johnny Manziel. Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring. Seems like just yesterday that the Two Guys Five Rings podcast was in Paris for the Olympics. And now we're heading to Milan for the 2026 Milan Cortina Olympic Winter Games. I'm Bowen Yang.

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And I'm Matt Rogers, and we'll join athletes from 93 countries as Two Guys, Five Rings hits the slopes of the Italian Alps for the 2026 Milan-Cortina Olympic Winter Games. Let us be your VIP pass for 116 events across 16 sports on one of the most beautiful stages in the world. It's the 2026 Milan Cortina Olympic Winter Games.

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Watch and listen to every moment of the Winter Olympics February 6th through the 22nd on NBC and Peacock and on the iHeartRadio app. And listen to Two Guys, Five Rings on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See you in Milan. Yeah, see you in Milan. If one of us wins, will we all win?

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I'm Ashley Reifeld, and I'm the host of the Women's Skateboarding Podcast, Good Luck With That. Good Luck With That is a skateboarding podcast that is part cultural record, part news brief, mostly group therapy, and a place to talk about the past, present, and future of women and gender expansive skateboarding.

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This week, me and my co-hosts, Nora Vasconcelos and Alex White, we have Fabiana Delfino on the show, a professional skateboarder from Florida whose grit was forged in a family of athletes. Tune in to hear how she broke into the boys club, what it takes to be pro, and why just being grateful you're here shouldn't be the price of entry.

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Maybe the industry thinks that we just started skating five years ago because that's when they maybe started paying attention. It's a no-fluff conversation about putting in the years, stacking clips and receipts, and still having to prove your worth while the industry catches up. You break down the door, sick, now, like, hold the door for everyone.

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We created Good Luck With That because we want to share our experience of existing in an industry that wasn't always built for everyone. So listen to Good Luck With That on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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greatness doesn't just show up it's built one shot one choice one moment at a time from nba champion stephen curry comes shot ready a powerful never before seen look at the mindset that changed the game i fell in love with the grind you have to find joy in the work you do when no one else is around success is not an accident i'm passing the ball to you Let's go. Steph Curry redefined basketball.

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Now he's rewriting what it means to succeed. Shot Ready isn't just a memoir. It's a playbook for anyone chasing their potential. Discover stories, strategies, and over 100 never-before-seen photos. Order Shot Ready now at stephencurrybook.com. Don't miss Stephen Curry's New York Times bestseller, Shot Ready, available now. What's up? It's Cam Jordan.

Chapter 6: How did Tennessee perform against Mississippi State?

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He go for, hey, he the guy. Hey, he follow instruction. And, you know, listen, it ain't only the players that's getting paid now, you know. Everybody get a little check out there. I need that. Now, I don't know a ball boy yet, but he get to travel to Ocho. You know what I'm saying? I get to travel to Ocho. Think about it now.

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If you're a college student, now, a lot of times, the ball boy might be one of the coach's sons or something like that. Because a lot of times, the ball boy is with coach's kids. You know, somebody that worked for the Broncos or worked for the Ravens. You know, Kyle – He got two sons, Clint and Klein. I think he got three boys, but two of them are offensive coordinators.

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Clint called plays for Seattle. They used to be out there shagging balls. They used to do all kinds of stuff. So that was the thing, you know, the coaches' kids, you know, position coaches, DB coaches, whatever, they shag balls. Now, everybody didn't get the goal, but you know, a lot of times, coach's son Before they had the cordless mic, Coach, remember they used to have the cord.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so the coach's son or somebody had to carry the coach's son because they didn't want people stepping on it. Right. Man, I remember, hey, I remember Jumpy Gathers was supposed to be going into the game, and he didn't see the cord. And by this time, they had pulled a cord. So it was up. Yeah, so Jumpy was going, he was getting ready just to step over it. Yeah.

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They snatched the cord. So Jumpy getting ready to step over it, it caught his foot. Man, Jumpy like, going like that. Man, it's the stuff that happened on the sideline, Ocho. I used to be laughing. Hey, some of the funny stuff. Coaches get run over. Yeah, get ran into. I got to make sure you're okay, Ocho. Make sure you're okay. Oh, he get up, it's over. You're laughing. What?

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Hey, don't let us win the game if you got run over and you get your ass on that bus. Right. Oh, you're going to get it. You're going to get it. What? Forever. Forever. Oh, it'd be 10 years deep. Hey, man, you remember you got ran over in Indy? Hey, that's one of them everlasting moments. That ain't ever going to... Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring.

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Seems like just yesterday that the Two Guys Five Rings podcast was in Paris for the Olympics. And now we're heading to Milan for the 2026 Milan Cortina Olympic Winter Games. I'm Bowen Yang. And I'm Matt Rogers. And we'll join athletes from 93 countries as Two Guys, Five Rings hits the slopes of the Italian Alps for the 2026 Milan Quartina Olympic Winter Games.

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Let us be your VIP pass for 116 events across 16 sports on one of the most beautiful stages in the world. It's the 2026 Milan Cortina Olympic Winter Games. Watch and listen to every moment of the Winter Olympics February 6th through the 22nd on NBC and Peacock and on the iHeartRadio app. And listen to Two Guys, Five Rings on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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See you in Milan. Yeah, see you in Milan. If one of us wins, will we all win? I'm Ashley Reifeld, and I'm the host of the Women's Skateboarding Podcast, Good Luck With That. Good Luck With That is a skateboarding podcast that is part cultural record, part news brief, mostly group therapy, and a place to talk about the past, present, and future of women and gender expansive skateboarding.

Chapter 7: What are the reactions to the recent college football games?

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Discover stories, strategies, and over 100 never-before-seen photos. Order Shot Ready now at stephencurrybook.com. Don't miss Stephen Curry's New York Times bestseller, Shot Ready, available now. Man, hey, that manager's like, look here, I wonder if they get scholarship. Oh, sure, he might get partial scholarship for that. Who that? The student manager.

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He might get some books or some tuition off his tuition. Probably, probably. Listen, I know he get a little chunk of change now. I just know it. Ocho, Oklahoma State five veteran coach Mike Gundy earlier this week. This is what the greatest head coach in college football had to say about Gundy's firing.

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Some people have a tougher time embracing the whole idea of paying players, especially some of us old timers. It's a little bit more difficult. Coaching is teaching, and teaching is the ability to inspire learning. For those of us who kind of get that, that's been our self-gratification for so many years.

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Embracing paying the players has been a little bit harder, and I think ultimately that's what got them at Oklahoma State. It's going to get dabble too. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But Dabo was supposed to be gone. Dabo was supposed to be at the middle left. When he said the moment they start playing – before you go. Dabo said the moment they start paying college players, he's up out of there. Yeah.

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Listen, Nate, I call that small talk. When you're talking small talk, you're just talking just to talk. You know good and well you're going to go on the web. And the fact that if you don't want to pay, now you're seeing – it might cost you your job on the back end. Because you got to play, you got to pay to win.

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One thing you got to do in life, no matter what you do, is you got to evolve with the times. Pay to play. You got to evolve with the times. It's simple to win. Hey. In this notion, hey, well, if you're tired of winning, no, the expectations are you just can't win, Dabo. No. No. You can't. And you know that. Ocho, I don't care if somebody else is getting paid as long as I'm getting paid.

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Let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, I make five million. All of a sudden, I work for this company and they want to pay the janitor $700,000. Why I care? Right. His $700,000 ain't coming out of my pay. Right. Dabo makes $11, $12 million a year. Why do you care in order to still field a good competitive team and go to that and win national championships?

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Why do you care if a player makes a million, $2 million, it's not coming out of your salary? I don't know. He's an old school coach, y'all. Yes. You know? I don't care what such and such make. Not one dime came out of Shannon's pocket. So guess what? I'm happy such and such making this.

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As long as it don't come out of my pocket, as long as you don't take from me to pay somebody else, I don't give a damn who gets paid. Yeah. I think also, you know how it is too with kids. They already don't listen with no money. You add money, it's a whole different ballgame. But you know that. It's the same. Ocho, it's the same. Look, listen, a lot of kids now are like this. Yeah.

Chapter 8: What predictions are made for the upcoming NFL games?

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I don't know. I'm on probation. I've been taught probation. Yeah. Russell Wilson could be on the trade block for several teams. Despite Wilson publicly stating that he's not going to request a trade from the Giants, he's expected to emerge as a major trade candidate prior to the November 4th deadline. Quarterback injuries have already hit the Commanders, Vikings, 49ers, and Bengals.

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Ocho, which team could you see shooting their shot at Russ? I mean, look at the situation for the teams you just made. You said Commanders, Jaden Daniels will be back. Viking, J.J. McCarthy. How long is J.J. out? J.J. is not out that long. They didn't say. I think they said maybe two weeks. Yeah, so JJ will be back.

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If anything, the only team that makes sense whose quarterback is going to be out for a substantial amount of time is the Bengals. So, I mean, Russell Wilson to the Bengals. If anything, I mean, I like it. Being that Russell Wilson to throw the ball and he goes to a situation that's a little bit better for him because you have players around you. We don't have to elevate them.

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They're going to elevate your play. being what he has at his disposal as far as weaponry is concerned. Joe Burrow doesn't come back until December. And the funny thing, depending on how we play this year, if we're not doing well, Monday night's going to be a tall tale for that. Depending on how that game goes, there's a chance Russell Wilson might be in the building next week.

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I think the problem is, Ochoa, he'll be going to a team that his offensive line isn't much better than what he's leaving in New York. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Listen. Now, he does have, he does, but we've seen at the end of the day, it's hard to throw, get completions on your back. Yeah, yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. Most definitely.

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But it sure going to be sweet having one and five to throw to, though. Yeah, for sure. It's going to be sweet having one and five to throw to. I know, I can tell you that. Jake Brown ain't got one in five to throw to. Would you see him running for his life? And he going to be running for his life again because guess what? Yeah. The Broncos can rush the passer.

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Oh, man, we ain't paying the Broncos no mind, man. We ain't paying the Broncos no mind because I'm telling you, when we come on the show Monday, when we come on the show. No, Sunday night. Oh, it's over for you. Monday, Monday, Monday, Monday. It's a Monday night game. Okay. Do me a favor. Don't come on here sad. Don't come on here with no excuse. I ain't going to be sad.

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Sean Payton did this, and Bo Nix didn't do that. I don't want to hear nothing. One thing I know about Jake Browning, he has never lost a Monday night game. He ain't never played one either. Does that matter? Never lost a Monday night game. Does that matter? All right, you'll see. Okay, we'll see. All right. Lance Briggs apparently gave one of the worst halftime speeches ever.

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Take a listen to this, Ocho. Wait, Briggs had the worst speech I've ever heard in my entire football career. Like high school, college, and pro. It was the worst. We were losing to Cincinnati. Lance was in charge of the huddle that week because I think Lack was out. I think Lack was hurt that year. So Lance gets everybody together. He said, I usually don't say nothing.

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