No Trace: The Disappearance of Sage Smith

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The government gets a bad reputation. But did you know the roads under your feet, the forecast on your phone, the letter in your mailbox, that's all government too. I'm Lindsay Cormack, and I'm hosting a new podcast called Government That Doesn't Suck, alongside Greg Jackson from History That Doesn't Suck. Each episode, we tell the surprising story of an American institution, from the Postal Service to the Weather Service, to the national parks and the parts of government hiding in plain sight. Listen to and follow Government That Doesn't Suck, available now wherever you get your podcasts.
Unknown 0:36
This is Crime House.
Kaelyn Moore 0:40
Sage Smith, a vulnerable trans girl, leaves home to meet a date. She's never seen again. With no forensic evidence, her case goes cold until the top person of interest goes missing too.
Morgan Absher 0:52
Then, on the 13th anniversary of Sage's disappearance, the police announce a major update. One that should have finally cracked the case open. So why are we still wondering what exactly happened to Sage Smith?
Morgan Absher 1:18
Hi guys, welcome back to Clues, where we sneak past the crime scene tape to explore the key evidence behind some of the most gripping true crime cases.
Kaelyn Moore 1:24
I'm Kaylin Moore. I'm going to be the one digging deeper into the timelines, the backstories, and the court files released on these cases.
Morgan Absher 1:30
And I'm your internet sleuth, Morgan Absher. I'm the one who's diving into the Reddit forums to talk about the lesser known details and pulling out the threads that just don't add up. And don't forget to share your thoughts on social. Want ad-free listening and early access? Subscribe to Crime House Plus on Apple Podcasts. And make sure to go back and listen to our previous episodes wherever you get your podcasts. Now, let's get into Sage Smith's case and the clues that defined it. This is a big one today. Yeah. This is a big one. It's going to open up a lot of conversation, I think, about, you know, the risk that the trans community is at, especially Black trans women. I know.
Kaelyn Moore 2:09
I know.
Morgan Absher 2:10
But before we get into it today, I just have a favor to ask of you guys. If you're into the romantic-y genre, can you please recommend some new books for me in the comments?
Kaelyn Moore 2:19
Because you're tearing through them. I see your Instagram stories and you're like, I finished five books. Court of Daisies and Dragons.
Morgan Absher 2:29
Oh, yeah. I went through all the fourth wing books in about five days. Loved fourth wing. I'm on the third book of ACOTAR and like I have a very intense personality when it comes to books. And once I get started, I can't stop. So I've read Akatar. I'm almost done with the third and that'll be in about a week.
Kaelyn Moore 2:49
And how many are in the whole series?
Morgan Absher 2:52
There's five that are out now, but apparently this third one kind of wraps up my main characters and then they kind of dive in from other people's perspectives or something. Oh, that's fun. I like when books do that. Yeah.
Kaelyn Moore 3:03
And by books, I mean Twilight when they did that. Midnight Sun. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Morgan Absher 3:07
Yeah. So I'm like, after I read Fourth Wing, I was in a pit of despair like no other because I'm like, Where do I go from here? It was so good. So if you have any other book recommendations, like reading is kind of my like brain break, especially after like researching stuff or.
Kaelyn Moore 3:23
Oh, totally.
Morgan Absher 3:24
Podcast. I'm like, I need a brain break. And so if you have any recs, please put them in the comments for me.
Kaelyn Moore 3:29
If I were to start with fourth wing or ACOTAR, which one do you think I should start with?
Morgan Absher 3:33
I would do fourth wing.
Kaelyn Moore 3:34
Oh, interesting. Okay. Okay. It's just so good. One day I'm going to dive into it. I think it's like intimidating to start with because they're so big and there's so many.
Morgan Absher 3:41
It goes so fast. And I've also like hacked it where I love the graphic audio versions, not the basic audio versions. The voices on that one are horrible. The graphic.
Yeah.
Kaelyn Moore 3:52
What does that mean?
Morgan Absher 3:53
I'll show you. Okay.
Kaelyn Moore 3:55
Like graphic? Always graphic.
Unknown 3:58
Oh my goodness. I'm a mother now. No, I'm just kidding.
Morgan Absher 4:04
It's just so good. There's like sound effects, like dragon huffs and stuff. Okay.
Kaelyn Moore 4:09
fairy twinkles yeah that's fun I like that okay thank you for the recommendation it sets it in the mind more but okay let's let's get serious here yeah this is a big one we're gonna dive into and as a quick reminder anyone who's watching this on youtube you're gonna see some videos pictures that are gonna help you um visualize the case and if you're listening you can find the same pictures and videos on our socials that's at clues podcast on instagram

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