MISSING: Jermain Charlo
episodePreviously titled “The Disappearance of Jermain Charlo: A Case That Demands Justice” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 3, 2026
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What happened to Jermain Charlo on June 15, 2018?
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Imagine you have two little kids who are safe and healthy, a new job that you're about to start that you're actually excited about. You're looking forward to this next chapter of your life. So you go out to a bar to celebrate, but you never make it back home.
This is what happened to 23-year-old Jermaine Charlo. And unfortunately, her story happens far too often to other young indigenous women like her. The search for Jermaine continues to this day. And if she's still out there somewhere, you could be the one to help bring her home.
Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of Clues, where we sneak past the crime scene tape to explore the key evidence behind some of the most gripping true crime cases. I'm Kayla Moore. I'm going to be the one digging deeper into some of the timelines, the backstories, the court files released on these cases. And I'm your internet sleuth, Morgan Absher. I'm the one who's diving into the Reddit forums and talking about some of the lesser known details and really pulling out the threads that just don't add up.
And don't forget to share your thoughts on social with us. Want ad-free listening and early access? Subscribe to Crime House Plus on Apple Podcasts. Also, search and follow Crime House Daily, Crime House's twice-a-day show that has unbelievable stories from the world of crime. Let's get into this case and the clues that defined it. Morgan, before we jump in, can I shout out some of our listeners? Yes. I wanted to shout out some of our listeners. So we did an episode a few months ago on Savannah LaFontaine Graywind. And we heard from some of you guys. And so I wanted to shout out Ayanna was one. We had Kate, Kendra, and Dakota. These are at least ones that I saw. I think there's maybe more people than that, but they're all indigenous women who listen to our show or descendants of indigenous women.
And I just was thinking about them when we were getting ready to do this episode, because obviously this is another missing and murdered indigenous woman story.
Yeah, this is a really tough case today. I will say I really appreciated all of the comments on Savannah's episode. I think it was very apparent. Like, people were like, damn, you guys are struggling by the end of this. And it's like, yeah.
We were pretty haggard. It was a really tough one to get through.
It was. Like, you had just announced your pregnancy to us. So, like, it hit extra close to home that day. And this is another case that is, like, it's so heavy. She's got two little boys kind of at the heart of this. And... There's a lot to get mad about. I will tell you right now, I am so sorry for the energy in this studio today and what I say because I'm pissed.
I'm really pissed. But there's still a lot that can be done, which is why we wanted to bring awareness to this case because there might be someone out there. I don't know how many listeners we have in Montana. But I need you guys' full attention for this one because there could be someone who knows something that could come forward. Absolutely.
And it's been apparent in this case already that when people get loud and they bring it up again, it starts getting people acting and moving. So it's important we keep highlighting these cases and amplifying Indigenous voices out there.
Who were the key people in Jermain's life before her disappearance?
Absolutely. Without further ado.
Yeah, before we even dive in, I want to immediately give a shout out to Connie Walker, who was one of the many sources that we looked into for this episode. Instrumental in this case. But she did very in-depth reporting with the Stolen team for their podcast that they did on Jermaine Charlo.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What happened to Jermain Charlo on June 15, 2018?
0:02–3:58
2
Who were the key people in Jermain's life before her disappearance?
3:58–7:46
3
What evidence was found during the investigation into Jermain's case?
7:46–13:06
4
How did the police respond to Jermain's disappearance?
13:06–16:56
5
What were the circumstances surrounding Michael DeFrance's involvement?
16:56–20:49
6
What are the implications of domestic violence in Jermain's story?
20:49–25:33
7
How has the investigation evolved over the years?
25:33–31:16
8
What resources are available for missing and murdered Indigenous women?
31:16–1:10:56
Speakers
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