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587: Surfing the WSL Wave

Wed, 11 Sep 2024

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Our thoughts on the iPhone 16, and then Mike surfs the WSL wave.

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1.82 - 33.679 Chris

This is Coda Radio, episode 587, recorded on September 10th, 2024. Hey friend, welcome in to Jupyter Broadcasting's weekly talk show, taking a pragmatic look at the art and the business of software development and the world of technology. My name is Chris, and sharpening his claws, it's our host, Mr. Dominic. Hello, Mike. Huzzah! Happy debate day. Oh, yeah. You have to be excited for us. Yeah.

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33.919 - 51.026 Chris

But for people listening, it's just post debate day. So hope you had fun. Hope you had fun. Oh, yeah. You know, Google's not having too much fun. So the Biden administration has, you know, the DOJ part. So the DOJ has not publicly offered. A plan for what they're going to do with Google.

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51.707 - 74.41 Chris

We're going to have, you know, final judgment in August of next year, but they're already leaking what some of their considerations are. And it looks like they're considering the leaks is on the table. A forced sale of Android. Forced sale off of Chrome. But nothing in the leak about the ad business, which is what all the news was talking about this morning, was the ad business.

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74.47 - 96.217 Chris

Because it turns out there's a separate antitrust that has just kicked off around just the ad business. And they're going to try to slice that off, too. This would be way beyond what they did for Microsoft back in the early 2000s, right? Because Microsoft didn't actually have to split out into a bunch of different companies. What do you think?

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96.797 - 120.701 Chris

So this we're going to get we're going to get strung along, strung along until August. So maybe we talk about it now and then we just watch. But I'm curious at the onset of this with the DOJ leaking this to publishers at Politico. Seemingly to try to specifically say Android Chrome. Off on their own, they have to be their own separate businesses. YouTube didn't come up.

121.182 - 123.722 Chris

Ad business didn't come up yet, but that may come up in the next trial.

124.372 - 128.414 Mike

Yeah, I mean, this will be in court for 10 years if they actually go for the breakup, right?

129.814 - 151.222 Chris

It seems a little too extreme, too. It was a 10-week trial, right? And then, boom, now we're talking about splitting up one of the largest tech companies in the world, who's, I don't know, like, I don't love Google. And I'm going to make it clear, I think people on this show know how I feel about Google. I've gone through a lot of efforts to de-Google my life.

152.87 - 170.256 Chris

Not a big fan of theirs, and I think they are kind of a disappointment as a company these days. However, if you were to break up Google's ad business and you were to break up Chrome and you were to start splitting these things up, there may be some advantages to that.

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