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Poll finds Americans concerned as Trump accelerates global intervention

09 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What moral stance does President Trump claim could limit his global actions?

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The most important difference between our plan and that of our opponent is that our plan will put America first.

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11.391 - 18.443 Domenico Montanaro

When Donald Trump first ran for president in 2016, he promised a focus on domestic issues.

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Americanism, not globalism. will be our credo.

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He offered a vision for American foreign policy, and he vowed to keep the U.S. out of global conflicts.

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We must abandon the failed policy of nation building and regime change.

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But in his second administration, a shift. Trump has ousted Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro.

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We are going to run the country until such time as we can do it safely. proper and judicious transition.

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Threatened Iran for its suppression of recent protests.

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If they start killing people like they have in the past. I think they're going to get hit very hard by the United States.

Chapter 2: What do Americans think about the moral leadership of the United States?

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We need Greenland from a national security situation. It's so strategic. Trump has launched military strikes on terror targets in Yemen, Syria, Nigeria, while threatening to annex Canada, retake the Panama Canal and more.

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There's no question that in his second term, Donald Trump is entirely unbound and he's eager to throw America's weight around in the world.

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Stuart Patrick is a specialist on world order and international cooperation at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. He says Trump is waving aside rules-based international order in his effort to ensure U.S. dominance. And that's worrying Americans. According to a new NPR-Ipsos poll, nearly half of Americans say Washington should stay out of other countries' affairs.

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And while the poll also finds that Americans want the U.S. to be a moral leader in the world, far fewer actually think it is. Consider this. In his second term, Trump's foreign policy is dramatically reshaping the global geopolitical landscape. So how are people reacting inside the U.S.

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Chapter 3: How has Trump's foreign policy shifted in his second administration?

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and beyond? From NPR, I'm Mary Louise Kelly. It's Consider This from NPR. President Trump raised eyebrows when he told the New York Times there was only one thing that could stop him on the global stage.

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Yeah, there's one thing. My own morality. My own mind.

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So what do Americans think about the moral standing of the United States? Well, a new NPR-Ipsos poll released today finds Americans still want the U.S. to be a moral leader in the world, but far fewer think it actually is. To make sense of what that means and hear what else Americans told us in this poll, I am joined by NPR senior political editor and correspondent Domenico Montanaro. Hi there.

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199.882 - 204.216 Domenico Montanaro

Hey, great to be with you. And Senior International Affairs Correspondent Jackie Northam. Hey, Jackie.

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Chapter 4: What are the key findings from the NPR-Ipsos poll regarding U.S. foreign policy?

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Hi, Mary Louise. Domenico, just walk us through key findings of this poll. What did we learn?

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Well, the survey, we should say, was conducted before the US military action in Venezuela, but it is more about Americans' broader sentiment on foreign policy. And it shows some really notable shifts from a similar survey conducted nearly a decade ago. On the question of moral leadership, like you were talking about, 61% say the US should be the world's moral leader,

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But only 39% think that it actually is. And that's down sharply from 60% in 2017. One more point. There's a seeming contradiction that stood out to me among Republicans thinking about Venezuela here. Two-thirds of them say that the U.S. should not hesitate to use military force, but... 56% say that the U.S. should stay out of the affairs of other countries.

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So it's a warning sign for Trump going forward on Venezuela.

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Chapter 5: How do Americans feel about military intervention in foreign affairs?

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His party's rank and file are seemingly fine with military action, might not be OK with running the country long term.

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261.098 - 273.831 Domenico Montanaro

Some really interesting shifts from a decade ago. OK, that's how Americans view this moment. Jackie, what about everyone else? How is the world looking at, say, America's involvement in Venezuela?

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274.317 - 287.815 Jackie Northam

Well, I talked to a number of analysts in the UK, France, and in India, just to get a sense of how the Venezuela operation was being viewed. And, you know, there was muted reactions from a lot of governments, in part because leaders don't want to annoy Trump.

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287.855 - 311.207 Jackie Northam

But people in many countries are very worried, not only about the disrespect for international law, but more broadly, is where does this stop? Trump is talking about acquiring Greenland, even by force, certainly in Cuba, Colombia, Mexico. I spoke with Sylvie Kaufmann, and she's a foreign affairs columnist at Le Monde in Paris. And she said that's a real concern for people.

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There's quite a lot of emotion about this when you hear people on the radio. They are worried. They say, but what is next? You know, can they really invade Greenland?

Chapter 6: What is the global perception of America's actions in Venezuela?

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What will happen? What should we do? Are we going to send troops there?

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And of course, Mary Louise, allies are wondering if relations with the U.S., you know, alliances such as NATO will hold up if something does happen in Greenland.

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Say more about that, Jackie. Beyond Greenland, beyond Venezuela, how allies are trying to navigate relations with the U.S. ?

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342.695 - 363.623 Jackie Northam

It's a real challenge. It has throughout this first term. It seems if a country does something Trump doesn't like, he'll retaliate, like with increased tariffs or sanctions. I spoke with Pratap Mehta, and he's a senior fellow at the Center for Policy Research in Delhi. And he says at the beginning of Trump's second term, a lot of leaders thought this action was simply transactional.

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He's after resources or money. But Mehta says a year on, they see there's something else driving Trump's actions.

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It's actually quite remarkable how much he seems to believe that part of the problem with America's relations with the world is that America had actually not exercised its power correctly.

Chapter 7: How does Trump's approach affect U.S. relations with its allies?

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Quite extraordinary. And I think the rest of the world is beginning to see that.

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And that's led to a real erosion of trust in the U.S., Mehta says. You know, in fact, two of the people I talked with used the term enemy.

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Yeah, it's really remarkable to hear people using the term enemy. Domestically, half say that the U.S. has lost influence worldwide in this survey, while 57% say China, who's also seen as the leader in technological development, has gained it.

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Domenico, on that, do we know how much is specific to President Trump, how much this reflects things being viewed through the partisan lens in this very partisan moment?

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Yeah, really a lot. I mean, when you look inside those numbers, almost three quarters of Democrats and six and ten independents think the U.S. has lost influence around the world compared to just a quarter of Republicans. who think so, too. Just like with so many things in U.S.

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society, things are viewed through this lens of Trump, whether it's the economy or here we're talking about foreign policy.

Chapter 8: What are the potential consequences of Trump's foreign policy on global trust?

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And we see that show up in this survey on everything from military intervention, American moral standing, whether the U.S. should give humanitarian aid to other countries, whether the U.S. should prioritize democracy and human rights or thinking about Venezuela again, whether foreign policy should focus on enriching America and Americans.

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453.614 - 465.717 Domenico Montanaro

Yeah. Stay with what you just raised about democracy and human rights and whether American foreign policy should focus on prioritizing that versus enriching Americans. What does the survey say?

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Well, on whether foreign policy should focus on enriching the country, two thirds of Republicans say it should, compared to just 29 percent of Democrats and less than half of independents who said that. Promoting democracy and human rights are more of a priority, again, for Democrats now.

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And that's something Trump seems to have shifted quite a bit from the way the GOP used to talk about international intervention. It's not that long ago that Republicans were talking about the need for the U.S. to spread democracy. and counter communism to tout freedoms and voting.

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But in this survey, only 16% of Republicans say that those things should be the priorities compared to a majority of Democrats. Instead, it's way more transactional for Republicans.

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Just fascinating. Okay, so big picture question, I'll throw it to both of you. How should we think about where US foreign policy may go from here? Domenico, you first.

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Seems very much in flux. You know, we've seen Trump upend the post-World War II world order. He's moving towards something that is more about regional and hemispheric strength, an idea that really dates back to colonialism. And he's been able to convince his base that this is the way to go, in part because Americans don't care as much.

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about foreign policy compared to, say, the economy as a voting issue. This survey, for example, found 61% say that they follow domestic politics at least fairly closely compared to just 43% who say the same of international affairs. So after events like Venezuela, the messaging to a domestic audience is so key because certainly Trump's base is convincible.

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And Jackie? Trump certainly is embracing force to advance U.S. national security interests and likely feels pretty confident after what appears to be a successful military operation in Venezuela. But, you know, I spoke with Michael Cox, and he's a professor of international relations at the London School of Economics, and he says Trump could be too confident.

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