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Software Isn’t Eating the World—Services Are with Sangram Vajre

20 Aug 2025

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Welcome to 'Playbook Broken,' the show where we investigate what's no longer working in marketing and sales, and what might work next. Our guest is Sangram Vajre, co-founder of Terminus and GTM Partners, who provides sharp, unapologetic insights into modern go-to-market (GTM) strategies. Sangram discusses why the traditional sales funnel is outdated and how SaaS is transforming into services software. He emphasizes the importance of metrics over meetings and proposes a redefined approach to GTM. This episode also explores the impact of AI, services becoming the front end of software, and the shift towards fractional roles in organizations. Tune in for a deep dive into redefining success in today's rapidly evolving market landscape.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome01:34 The Death of the Traditional Funnel05:34 Ownership of Go-to-Market Strategies12:28 The Business of Marketing17:19 The Shift from SaaS to Services24:19 The Evolution of Software Services25:17 The Shift to Outcome-Based Services26:18 Economic Sense of Fractional Services27:03 The Disruption of Traditional Business Models30:32 The Role of Ego in Business Decisions34:06 AI's Impact on Business Operations36:20 Future of UI and AI Integration41:22 Managing Energy and Productivity44:31 Conclusion and Final Thoughts"This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

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