This week, Gilly finds out what happens when life falls apart, and grows again, with Kathy Slack’s Rough PatchKathy was a high flying executive living the dream in Adland... until it became a nightmare. Burn out gave way to clinical depression and a very dark place indeed. Ultimately hers is a story about nature, dogs and how growing veg saved her, but she doesn’t pull any punches, and trigger warning, she and Gilly do talk about how depression can lead to suicidal thoughts, although thankfully not in her case.Pop over to Substack for Extra Bites of Kathy, including the recipe from that Pitstop Tart.And if you or someone you know needs to talk about suicide, here are some useful numbers:Samaritans 📞 116123Papyrus- for under 35s 📞 08000684141And to learn how to have compassionate, courageous conversation that could save a life, click here to Start the Conversation Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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