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Chapter 1: What are the most popular Japanese creepy pastas?
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Welcome back to Creepcast. Today we're going to be doing something pretty special. This is the, uh, some of the best Japanese, uh, cultural creepypastas out there. We're doing a big grab bag, all Japanese creepypastas. Very, very excited. Uh, and I know that there's- We're going to Japan today! We are going to Japan. Konnichiwa!
And I know that the, uh, there's some that are on here that I know that are pretty, uh, I would say pretty popular, or at least some of the more well-known ones. I know the first one we're going to read is Tomino's Hell. I feel like that's a pretty well-renowned one. I feel like I've seen that one a lot on the Creepypasta websites and stuff. Well, it's been reoccurring.
Yeah, so I don't know which the story of it's so muddled now. I don't know if the legend around the creepypasta is true, but supposedly it's not a creepypasta. It's a poem from like the 1910s. And it's just like made its way into creepypasta culture. But that could also be the creepypasta just saying that. I don't know. But yeah, there's a bunch of weird Japanese ones that...
It's interesting because a lot of the more popular American ones are long, kind of goofy, about a killer. A lot of the Japanese ones are like, yeah, this is a spirit that kills you. Sucks for you. I really don't know if there's anybody better at, which may be a controversial take. I don't know.
I don't know if there's anybody better at folklore or folk horror urban legends than Japanese storytelling. I always feel like it's always the best. At least it's always my favorite, if I'm being honest. Anytime I read about like a, like a Japanese cryptid or like a Japanese story of a town or something, it's like, yeah, well the devil lives here and it's going to kill everyone you've ever met.
Get ready. They don't pull any punches. I love how superstitious the culture culture is in general. Like it really adds like that, that kind of belief system I think really translates really well into, uh, into all of the writing and art that they do. Um, So I'm very excited.
I mean, even this first one here that we're reading called Tomino's Hell, it's literally about a Japanese poem that you are not supposed to read out loud. That within itself, I'm sure, fucked up so many people because they're like, what? You know, like that's very superstitious. I'm like, I'm not going to do that. As with most of these stories, me when I was 12.
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Chapter 2: What is the significance of Tomino's Hell in Japanese folklore?
Yes. It's like, huh? How fun is that? And I love that. I feel like a lot of these are pretty old too, right? A lot of these are... We're doing a big grab bag today. I mean, a lot of these, like the read time is very short, but... I think with the kind of obvious detours we normally take, it'll be fine.
But yeah, a lot of these, it's just like that classic old creepypasta, very short, very punchy format, which I do think lends to these very quick folktale urban legend vibes that the Japanese stories tend to take. So I'm pretty excited. Yeah, I'm excited as well. And you have some...
you know background with japanese horror because you murdered a japanese woman that is that is what japanese that is what i see i see that a lot in comments now um right my trip to japan well you posed a very weird hypothetical you well you posed a very weird hypothetical to me that sounded kind of suspicious after murdering a japanese woman have you encountered any spirits
Uh, that has yet to happen. I, when I was in Japan though, for people who are a fan of my channel, Papa meat on YouTube, please check it out. Uh, I did, we, we did yourself. No, no, no, definitely not. But on YouTube, uh, YouTube.com. So probably what I did, what did happen though, was for people that don't know, I did go to Japan, uh, bound almost two years ago now. Good Lord.
Time flies the, uh, and when I was there, I had, I would say kind of a ghostly experience, uh,
oh yeah and i it we were in we were in osaka and we were at the intersection of this like basically shopping market area outside you know and we came across this man who kind of came up to us with this ikea bag i forgot what he said what did he say he said uh oh yeah that's what he said he said uh i sorry that's what he said he came up to us Big crowded area.
We were all just standing in like a circle, just chatting. This man walks up to us and he looks us dead in the eyes or he looks at Harry dead in the eyes, which would say, and he says, like that. And like, as if like, excuse me, you know, in a, in a weird way. And we were like, Oh, you know, no problem. And it was just very haunting. And then he like kind of like barely walked past us.
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Chapter 3: How does Japanese storytelling differ from American horror stories?
Like sandals scraping on the ground. We kind of looked at each other and we were just like, what the fuck is this? And I'm not even joking, Isaiah. When I tell you that we turned and he was gone and it wasn't like a busy, like big, big crowd. I mean, like gone, gone, gone, not there anymore. Blown away in the wind.
I have no idea where the fuck he went, but that was that, that really stuck with us. One time in New York, I saw a Chinese man throw a cigarette at a seagull and it died. Which one? So that's kind of, it's kind of like a spirit. The seagull died? Yeah. Yeah. That must have been a powerful flick. Well, no, it just kind of, it's kind of bounced off of me and just kind of fell over.
That's why I mean, it was kind of spiritual, you know? So is it possible that the Japanese man recognized Harry as Korean? Yeah. And was like, oh, I'm sorry for what we did to you. No, I don't think so. It was an apology on behalf of the country. Or alternative, he mistook Harry as a Japanese man and possibly thought he was related to him and said he's sorry.
Or third option, that was actually Harry's grandfather and he just doesn't know. As fun as all of these hypotheticals are, I think that you're going to be disappointed to find that. I think it was a man... Where we were just in his way. Even though it looked like he walked out of his way to be inconvenienced by us. And then said, I'm sorry. We were baffled for maybe a second. Maybe two.
I'd give it two seconds. And then looking back over it to be completely gone. Was still... Even if it is those things of him coming up, even if it was into these hypotheticals, you said, where did this man go? How could he have moved so fast without us knowing? I don't know. I don't know. You know, if I was... somewhere and a group of Americans came up and I was a Japanese man.
And I was like, Oh, excuse me. And they just stared at me dumb fuddled. I'd probably be like, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to disappear. So they think I'm a ghost. There is a, well, first off that would not happen in Japan. Every time in Japan, no one really talks to each other. It's not a very social society. If you go into a business, it's different. Well, Possibly.
Well, if anything, then that's the case then too. It'd be weird that they would do that. But I would say that like... It's true. Also, I don't think that we were being disrespectful in any way. And also, I think that the only thing that we were looking at that was a bit odd was that he got so close to Harry's face, which is also very odd.
uh that kind of i'm telling you man contact him harry knows that guy then he's lying to you and then you should interrogate him about if he is and that is downright cruel because he sold it very well i mean it was so yeah i mean an inch or two from his face and then to say i sorry and then scuttle off it was you know i don't know if it translates well but i will say it was a very i mean it shook us
It shook us. I was shook. That's a pretty supernatural experience. So you don't have any ghost stories or anything from the Suicide Forest? No, I didn't. Sorry. I didn't go to the Suicide Forest, but I did get a Blu-ray of a movie called... Hold on, let me grab this right here. What's the Logan Paul? Oh, yeah. I've made a severe and continuous lapse in judgment. It's a Blu-ray called Fuji Jukai.
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Chapter 4: What is the legend of Hanako-san and its cultural impact?
The toilet ghost, an old urban legend about the ghost of a little girl that haunts the toilets of schools. Hashako Sama, which is an urban legend of a tall woman in a hat that brings about generational doom. God damn. Yeah, we're going to start with Tamino's Hell. Thank you so much to all of our patrons and all of our supporters. It really does mean the world. You can listen to these on Spotify.
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Okie dokie. I think there's a mutiny going on here. I think you're trying to make a case that I am mentally unfit to continue to host this show. Well, I don't. I would hate to comment on that. I'm not going to comment on that. I bet you would at this time, but there will be a lot of comments made about it later. And you're trying to replace me with Nick.
This is all coming back to your collective IP where there's just a bunch of shows and stuff that you and Nick. And Nick's going to come to my house, and he's going to dress up as me, and he's going to sit in my room. He's going to raise your daughter. And that's just...
yeah he's gonna have to marry my wife the ultimate goal is to find this asian man who this japanese man who right who uh said i sorry he's he's he's gonna be the new host he's the new host he's replacing me I come home one day, like, I go out to get milk, and I walk in, and, like, this 70-year-old Japanese man's wearing my clothes. I'm like, what? And Kayla's like, who are you?
She's, like, freaking out on me, and she looks at the Japanese man. She's like, Isaiah, stop him. And she says, Isaiah, were you in a house fire? And you're like, no, no, no, I just wrecked the dirt bike again. That's why these layers of skin are off my face and hands and arms. All right. Okay. She's like, is that seal kiss from a rose? You're like, no, no, no. It's me. Your husband.
We were having fun. Okay. We were having fun. All right. Okay. To me knows hell to me knows hell. So real quick though, this is a, I'm just want to read this little part. It says, this is us. Uh, I'm on David bowels website, David bowels.us. So just saying, this is a thing that he put here. I just wanted to read, uh, Apparently the story of a young boy's damnation for unnamed acts.
Camino's Hell was published, I discovered, in a 1919 collection of poetry by Sajo Yasso. Is that how you say that? I think so. Titled Saken or translated to Gold Dust. The poet was a university professor and lived in France for a time studying at the Sorbonne. His work is heavily influenced by French poets, especially symbolists like Arthur Rimbaud, Stephanie Malamud, and Paul Valabaud.
with whom he became friends with. Though Sideshow's later work was ostensibly for children, it was filled with strange symbols and wordplay that could be quite unsettling. So just thought that was kind of interesting. So now you're saying, though, from what we were saying earlier, you think that that might not be true? Or you do think it is? I don't know. I think it might be real.
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Chapter 5: What are the origins and variations of the Hashaku-sama legend?
I'll leave that to your own discretion. Interesting. But we'll see if I get cursed. Yeah, we'll see if I get cursed and we'll see what happens. Yeah, I'm praying for no speaking parts. Yeah. Well, it's a poem, so I think you're good. So I'll also read the foreword on the Creepypasta wiki because in every version that was circulated around online, it had this intro.
Tomino's Hell was written by Seijo Yasuo for his 27th collection of poems Seiken, or Gold Dust in English, in 1919. There's a Japanese legend surrounding it which states it should only be read with the mind and never out loud. It's uncertain how this rumor started, but it goes on to say that tragic things will happen if you do. The story used to be very popular on 2channel.
Many users said that nothing happened after reading it and uploaded pictures and videos as proof. There were also posts where the user did not come back to post any results. And then it says, if you were to read this out loud, it'd be better to do so in Japanese, which I'm not going to attempt. You're welcome.
An alternative, more accurate translation by David Bowles can be found here, which is the one Hunter has pulled up. There's also this image. That's always passed around of this girl that looks like it's drawn with these very harsh strikes, like these like dark reds and bright whites and stuff. It looks like a girl without a nose who's been scarred or burned.
And at the bottom of the page on the creepy pasta wiki, it says the image associated with this story is a cropped version of a painting by Yuko Tatsushima entitled. I can no longer be a bride. It was supposedly made after the artist became a victim of sexual assault.
The title refers to how, according to Japanese tradition, women who are raped often have ensuing difficulties with marriage and reputation due to the perception of them having lost their innocence. That is depressing. Uh... So with that happy note out of the way, are you ready for me to read the poem that curses me? Yeah, very, very ready.
Also, there is a translation at the end that is in the original Japanese that I could attempt to read if you want me to. You want to sit here and do the whole thing in Japanese afterwards? I could, if you want. Hold on, let me do it first. Okay, you want me to read the quote-unquote more accurate David Bowles version? Well, in the David Bowles, there is a... Okay, yeah, just go ahead.
Because when I was a kid, I read like the creepypasta version that's passed around. But maybe I didn't get cursed because that was less accurate. So this is different. So wait, wait, wait. This is different than what you read? Yeah, well, it's the same poem. It's just the one that circulated around like on creepypasta websites was apparently not as accurate of a translation. I see. Okay.
So this is the real one. So we'll see if I really get cursed this time. Right, right. Elder sister vomits blood, younger sister breathing fire, while sweet little Tamino just spits up the jewels. All alone does Tamino go falling into that hell, a hell of utter darkness without even flowers. Is Tamino's big sister the one who whips him?
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Chapter 6: How does Kisaragi Station relate to Japanese urban legends?
And that would relate back to the point where he's going to the eighth layer reserved for those who killed their parents. It feels like perhaps maybe it wasn't theirs. You know, whatever happened in the poet's life, he's attributing to me, no suffering as if he killed his own parents. My God. Look at the comments, Isaiah. Look at the fourth comment down. I pooped my jammies. Good God.
Oh, that's good. That's good. Yeah, very, very interesting. You know what? This is going to sound so fucking stupid, so please don't hold it against me. This is like what I want two-sentence horrors to feel like. Two-sentence horror stories to feel like. You know what I mean?
Which is obviously impossible because they're only two sentences long, but it's so short, and it's just so simple of talking about one thing, yet... I feel like it really... You just get so much out of it. It's very... I don't know. Very enlightened. How would you want two sentence horror to feel like that? I guess in the way that, which once again, I know it sounds so fucking stupid.
I don't even know why I said it out loud in God. I'm so fucking dumb, but I guess it's just the idea that it's like you, you want the two sentence horse to just be like, it's something that that's that short and has that much of an impact. But once again, it doesn't make any sense. I'm a fucking idiot. It's because it's obviously more than two sentences. Nevermind. I even said it. Just forget.
I even said it. I'm a fucking idiot. i think what you mean is like uh all the two sentences are so stupid fold in on yourself is so funny well it's because it's such a fucking stupid thing it's the most like uh i don't know it's just the most like it's just so fucking dumb what a dumb thing to say it's unbelievable that i have a microphone fuck my life the uh
If I had to justify it all, it's probably supposed to be something along the lines of like, you know, every two sentence horror that we are even not even outside of two sentence horror. I think a lot of things that are this short, it just ends up being like, oh, it's a monster. Oh, this is... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The entire payoff is, like, it's a spooky monster versus these things of, like, something that's this short yet packs in all of this emotional weight while also giving us, like... There's almost no exposition. It's, like, you're handed everything on this, like, beautiful platter and you're able to, like, run with it in all these different directions. I just think it's really, really fun.
Also, probably, I mean, so... I don't know. It must be so difficult, you know, to have something which just no fat like this is, it's very admirable. And also too, it's just a beautiful, beautiful translation too. But you know, at the same time, here's my two-sentence horror story. Man with podcast opens mouth. That's my fucking two-sentence horror story. That's a pretty good one. I got it.
That's pretty creepy. I looked up Japanese two-sentence horror stories, and they're all just normal two-sentence horror stories. Of course it is. It might be the dumbest thing I've ever said, and I apologize for it. I know that I'm going to get absolutely railed I heard a woman laughing softly behind me. But when I turned, there was only my reflection smiling back. Man with thought.
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Chapter 7: What themes are explored in the story of Kune Kune?
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Thank you to Factor for sponsoring the video. Now back to the episode. Let's move on to Hugnaco-san. All right, so. I'm on a website, by the way, that says japanmakesmescared.com. Yeah, yeah, this is where Nick goes as soon as he clocks in. No, this is, this is, that's the opposite. Nick would say the japanmakesmehappy.com is what it would be. He just looks at the page upside down. Mm-hmm.
So I'm reading off of, again, our source here. These are the sources Harry provided to us. So I'm just the messenger. Harry's, which you may have got him from the old man in Japan. Who knows? Possibly. It says Hanako-san is one of the most well-known Japanese urban legends and the name of the girl that appears in the story because she usually inhabits a school toilet.
She is often called Turei no Hanako-san, which means Hanako of the toilet as well. The original story is said to be an urban legend called the Third Hanako-san that appeared in the 50s. Then it spread to children and the rest of Japan in the 80s. In the 1990s, it came with the occult boom and appeared in pop culture, including films, manga, and anime, making it even more well-known.
Since then, her popularity has continued to be passed on to future generations. That's all according to this website. Don't know how true that is, but now, would you like to read the story? Yes. One day, A-Chan, a primary school girl, attended a school committee and stayed in school until late afternoon. When she returned to her classroom, the sun had almost set.
She was the only one in the classroom. A-Chan wanted to hurry home, but suddenly wanted to go to the toilet.
Toilet.
Oh, no.
That's such a good... Toilet.
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Chapter 8: How do Japanese creepy pastas reflect societal fears and beliefs?
This is literally the cartoon I made, which is just like being afraid to take a shit in public is like the most universally. I mean, like it's every culture. No one wants to take a shit in public. It's like the haunting idea that someone is listening to you do this like thing that you're like fucking embarrassed by. No one wants to hear your
you're fucking, you're pooping, you're farting sounds or anything like that. This idea of this bathroom etiquette or this like bathroom invasion is a, it's, it, I love this idea too, that it's from this. They said as early as the fifties is when this was written. Yeah. Yeah. Even that's when the legend started to make the rounds. Yeah. Yeah.
I bet you even the fucking Romans that had the aqueducts were just like, Hey, hold on. Don't come in. That kind of thing. I mean, it's, it's, it's forever, you know what I mean? It's so universal, but no, I, I mean that kind of just fun urban legend though is, uh, is really, really fun. There's this great, um, anime I saw. at Alma draft house that, uh, it, it flowed like this.
It wasn't like a toilet spirit, but it's just this idea of like, did you hear that? There's a ghost here. And then somebody is like, Oh, that, that sucks. And they immediately go there and are immediately haunted by said ghost. It's like, there's really no buildup or payoff. It's just kind of like, here I am. Like in this story, it's here I am. I'm washing my hands or I'm taking a shit, whatever.
And all of a sudden it's like, Oh God, I hope it's not that ghost. Are you that ghost? And it's like, yep.
Yeah.
But in this like, in this like style or it just works. I don't know. Like the one that I was referring to, I cannot remember the actual title of the story, but I do, I do know it was a, a Kazuo Umez, I believe is how you pronounce his name. He's like, he's like a Japanese horror mangaka. Like,
legend it's like the guy that junji ito was inspired by but it's just i see the guy that did that the classroom one that you know talks about all the time yep yeah yeah the the dissolving the melting classroom or whatever yeah or i think Ito did that one, or at least he did a rendition of it. The drifting classroom, I think is what he's, is what you're referring to. Oh, but that's yeah.
Anyways, those, those, uh, animes or those like, kind of like horror, uh, Japanese storytelling. It's just, I don't know why there's something really satisfying about just like, I'm going to tell you exactly what's going to happen, and it's going to happen. To be fair, that's true with almost any ghost story, but I just love how to the point it is here. It's just kind of fun. I'm reading...
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