Chapter 1: What is Tinder for Nazis and how was it hacked?
There was three sites, White Date, it really is just Tinder for white supremacists who want to meet other white European supremacists, you know. White Child, a sperm and egg donation service for white supremacists.
And then White Deal, which was like a business, I suppose like a LinkedIn for, if you want to compare it to something where they could stay in contact and give each other jobs and such, you know.
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Tinder for Nazis, a dating site for white supremacists, is hacked in Germany and the details posted online. Today I'm talking with Stephen Moore about the Irish race that's caught up in the far-right romance scandal that has rocked Europe.
Chapter 2: Who is Martha Root and what did she reveal about the site?
This is Crime World, a podcast from crimeworld.com. So Stephen, tell me about this Tinder for Nazis, which is an incredible headline, of course, caught my eye. Seriously, it is Tinder for Nazis?
That photo was dubbed by one of the journalists who was looking into this, who helped expose this. This was from a hacktivist, I think what they're called in Germany, who was able to access this site called White Date.
And White Date is like a Tinder, it really is just Tinder for people who want to meet other people, white supremacists who want to meet other white European supremacists, you know? Right. So she also managed to, she didn't even need to hack it, that's the funny thing. She actually says, so this woman who called herself, I assume, I think it's a woman, calls herself Martha Root.
So she kind of is an anonymous sort of a hacker and she went in and she came back with her investigations and published it somewhere or what?
Well, she live streamed it. She did this all on a, it was like a tech, like a left-wing tech conference, I think, in Germany. And she took to the stage dressed as a pink Power Ranger with the full pink motorcycle helmet. If you know what the Power Rangers look like. Oh, I do.
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Chapter 3: What types of profiles were found on the dating site?
And in front of this crowd, she basically wiped out the three, there was three sites, White Date, which was the one where I focused on, White Child, which was a sperm and egg donation service for white supremacists who wanted to, you know, make sure that they... Europe stayed white. Right.
And then White Deal, which was like a business, I suppose like a LinkedIn for, if you want to compare it to something where they could stay in contact and give each other jobs and such, you know. So bizarre. So she went on stage and she basically said, look, I didn't even need to hack this. Her quote was that they're...
their security was so bad it would make your grandma's AOL account blush you know there was no security to basically didn't even need to hack it all she did was put in something up in the URL domain and all the information for the entire site came out so basically she then wiped it clean while live on stage
So it got rid of all their profiles, you mean? Yeah, she wiped it, got rid of it.
Yeah, she went into them and she was able to download all the information. But I think it was 100 gigabytes of information, which amounted to 8,000 profiles across Europe and mainly, well, it was all Europe and North America. And then she posted, they posted them.
So it's where you come in because you had a look to see was there many of these people on this Tinder for Racists sites from Ireland or for Nazis and you discovered that there were?
Well, thanks to Martha, whoever Martha is, she very generously posted basically a map location, because on the profile you had to say where you were from. So she basically had very simple data that would show where each profile was based. So there was a little icon you could go in and put a map up on another site. You could then go in and focus in on each.
Now, there wasn't, I'm quite glad to say, there wasn't like there was thousands or even hundreds of people in Ireland. Right. I think there was about between 40 and 50 from what I could see, and I managed to get as many as I could. I think a lot of them managed to get it taken down.
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Chapter 4: How did the hacktivist expose the white supremacist dating sites?
She offered a deletion service, which if they contacted them through GDPR, she would remove that information. So about two days after I initially found out, there was a friend of mine who works for computers that sent me the link, although I'd never heard about it. They'd all been, all the ones in Ireland had been removed, so you wouldn't have known.
So what did you find when you went on? Was there a percentage of men, women, or were they kind of open profiles? Were they actual pictures of actual people?
No, from what I could see, nobody posted any photographs. I know in other parts of Europe and the UK, they did post photographs. of themselves. But it was very basic.
They basically asked you what was the name, how old you were, what you were looking for, why you were on this particular site, and bizarrely, you know, whether you wanted kids, whether you were married, whether you wanted to have kids or get married. And finally, the last one, which is really weird, they self-IQ'd themselves.
They gave themselves IQ tests and posted, you know, 185, I think some of them might be slightly questionable, but
Yeah, for sure. We might all go up a few figures in that if we do that to ourselves. So what kind of things were they saying about themselves? What were they looking for? And how did they describe themselves?
It was almost... exclusively male.
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Chapter 5: What was the reaction of the dating site's operators to the hack?
I only find two females in Ireland, one in Moƫ, County Tyrone, and another one in Dublin, I think.
Right, well they have probably dated all 45 men then.
I'm not sure how many exactly, I mean, The profiles are just very sad. Like I say, mostly, like I said, 95% men. And one of them, I mean, I have to say, one of them was a 62-year-old man who was offering to basically come out of retirement and populate the island, prepared to have relationships with women, to populate the island with white people just to do his bit for the country.
Very decent fella, you know, doing his bit for Ireland.
Indeed, God loves a trier. So what were these men and kind of, you know, what are they to say about themselves? Were they deeply rooted into this idea of this white supremacy in their actual profiles?
Yes. I mean, I think my favorite one was the man who said he was looking for a woman, looking for a lady, one with manners, grace, style and intelligence. Sounds all right. It's all right. Nothing wrong with that. A lady who has never been soiled by another race, sorry, by other races, and maintained her purity in that regard. Age does not matter to him, which, oh, that's great.
But part of the reason why I am on here is to find a bride willing to have children in order to stop the destruction of our people. Right, okay. Yeah. And that was pretty much the theme. There was a lot of talk of men talking about being red-pilled, which I hadn't heard that term and I had to look it up.
And red-pilled is a reference to the Matrix movie, if you remember, when Keanu Reeves has a choice of, I think it's the red or blue pill. And he takes the red pill because he's going to take a journey and be shown how the world really is. So these guys get red-pilled.
Some of them say they were red-pilled by listening to Aryan music, or they named some white supremacist who's got a YouTube channel, and they watched them, and they were red-pilled when they saw that. Now they see how the world order really is.
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Chapter 6: How many profiles from Ireland were discovered on the site?
So there's lots of that. So it's just a lot of sad men, really, I think.
And what did the two women, because they were in... They had a good chance of finding a date, the two women out of the 45, hadn't they really? You were a man and you were swiping whichever way you swiped to get rid of them.
It might be interesting to see if they got as much. There's a 56-year-old woman from Moy who joined in August 2020, so she'd been on a right few years. And she just said she joined to learn more about the internet and the white single community in my area. So it was her first foray into racially motivated dating sites, you know.
And I'm trying to think who the other... I don't have access to the other. There was another man who was very funny and I'm trying to find his profile. There were so many of them and I'm trying to copy them all down. But... Yeah, just a lot of, very sad. Yes. Very sad people, really.
So as soon as this kind of got blown as such, they all started pulling down their profiles.
Yes, like I say, this Martha Root character had offered, I think, a deletion service.
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Chapter 7: What were the common themes in the profiles of users?
She didn't want to, I'm not sure, because she was able to download it, it wasn't a hack. I don't think it was legal, what she did, certainly that side of it. So these things were publicly available. Anybody could have done this. if they wanted to, because the security was super. So she offered, you know, if you come to me, I'll basically have the deletion service.
So these people then very quickly, as you would imagine, very quickly removed them, you know.
And did you find out or did she find out, was this service, was it paid for? Did the people who had profiles have to kind of finance them in some way, monthly or...
It wasn't made clear, but I assume she was making some kind of money. This is a woman, whoever ran this site was based in Germany, was a far-right activist based in Germany. And they were actually quoted. They basically said, you know, she's basically, this is cyber terrorism, is how they described it. They confirmed after this live stream of the site being destroyed.
basically effectively wiped out. Whoever runs the company had put out a statement on their Twitter account, or X account, sorry, and said that this is cyber terrorism and there will be repercussions for those behind this. And yes, we confirm we have been basically effectively wiped out.
And so they were human beings behind it and kind of coming forward. They didn't feel at risk of any criminal prosecutions, which sounds bizarre in Germany in particular that there may not be criminal offences around this.
Yeah, no, like I said, I think because the security was so bad, she didn't have, there was no hacking.
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Chapter 8: What implications does this scandal have for online security?
It was just they put this, I don't understand the technology of it all, but she basically put something into the URL domain and it downloaded. It was something that anybody could have done if they'd had the technological know-how, just knowing that fact. So it was very, very poor.
I think she was making it fun, saying, you know, before you want to be the master race, perhaps master of cybersecurity, you know.
I like her style, yeah. No, she's quite good on that point. We'll leave that. Thanks very much, Stephen.
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