What Nobody Tells You About the Morgue (with Patricia Cornwell)
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Hi, it's Phoebe. As you probably know, here on Criminal, we normally put out our episodes on Fridays. But starting today, we have something new to share with you. Recently, I've been interviewing writers, reporters and journalists about stories I'm curious about. We're going to be sharing these more casual conversations here in the podcast feed on Tuesdays. You can also watch these new episodes on the Criminal YouTube channel. We've got the link right in the show notes. Today I'm talking with crime novelist Patricia Cornwell. She's written many books, including 29 novels about a fictional forensic pathologist named Kay Scarpetta, who, as it turns out, is based on someone she knows well. Patricia Cornwell recently published a memoir called True Crime, and I started out by asking her about the cover.
It's a picture of her wearing a lab coat and gloves and standing next to what appears to be a dead body on a gurney. Can you tell me about this picture on the cover of your book?
This is not exactly what I would expect. This picture was in 1997. Annie Leibovitz did – she was doing a photo shoot of me for Vanity Fair. And so we were trying to get just the right picture. So first we started in the Richmond Medical Examiner's Office. And that picture, you may have seen it before. I'm at an autopsy table and I have a cigarette hanging out of my mouth. And that was sort of the picture she was looking for. But the one you're talking about was taken in the cooler. of the Richmond Medical Examiner's Office. And yes, indeed, that is a dead body. And that was Annie Leibovitz took that photo. And the funny thing is the picture that's on the cover, when she was trying to take pictures of me, Dr. Fierro, Marcella Fierro, who was the deputy chief at that time and my mentor,
She was across the room with her little Canon SureShot camera, and every time Annie Leibovitz, the great Annie Leibovitz, is trying to take one of her pictures, Marcella's going, snap, and the little flash cube is going off. And Annie finally lowers her massive camera, and she looks across the room and says, could you please just not do that while I'm doing this?
You worked there in the 80s. What first got you into the morgue?
Well, that was not anything that I ever planned on. And I'm glad you asked because a lot of people, they've assumed that that is what, that I was working there. And while I was working there, I got ideas for writing books.
What inspired Patricia Cornwell to write about forensic pathology?
It was the total opposite. I started out a journalist after college and within six or eight months of being at the Charlotte Observer in Charlotte, well, you know, North Carolina, in Charlotte, North Carolina, they assigned me the police beat. And that is what began my, quote, life of crime, was running around, you know, the late hours of the night reporting on all the crimes in the Charlotte area and ending up on homicide scenes and talking to rape victims and shooting victims and stabbing victims and all this sort of thing. And so, but the one thing that I never knew when I was doing the police reporting is when I would go to a crime scene and the body was whisked away, I didn't know where they're taking it and what are they doing with it.
There wasn't really... This was 1980 and 1981. There wasn't much known about this sort of thing publicly except for the show Quincy, whenever that was long ago and far away. When I finally wrote the Ruth Graham biography, I left journalism. I wrote a biography of my dear friend Ruth Graham. And then... I thought, what am I going to do? I'm going to try writing books about crime. Maybe that's something I can do. But I'd never been to a medical examiner's office or a morgue. So somebody got me an interview at the Richmond Medical Examiner's Office, and I met Dr. Fierro for the first time in 1984. Wow. And she gave me a tour of the morgue, and I began doing research there. I was already trying to write a murder mystery, and I would go talk to her.
I would use their library. And after about the better part of a year of that, I wanted to see autopsies, and that was not...
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