Preliminary Final Week - The Trade Bell with Tom Morris (19.09.26)

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What is the trade bell timeline and why does it matter for clubs?

Gerard Whateley 0:00

You're listening to Crunch Time.

Tom Morris 0:06

It causes pulses to race whenever it's rung.

Gerard Whateley 0:08

The Crunch Time trade bell. Crunch Time is for the Ford Everest triple stack deal and Azito brushless power tools built to work. Azito, do you?

Tom Morris 0:16

Simmo

Gerard Whateley 0:16

loves

Tom Morris 0:17

it. Look at him. He's ready to go.

Adam Simpson 0:18

I actually do in one week. No, two weeks.

Tom Morris 0:21

15 teams are now done for the year. When's the date? When's it open? Trade time. So what is it? It's about October 5 or thereabouts. It's a Monday. Anyway. We'll talk

Gerard Whateley 0:30

with everything we need to know, particularly the Todd Marshall scenario as it's unfolded.

Tom Morris 0:35

So these conversations between Port Adelaide and the AFL and more recently the Western Bulldogs have been happening for some time. Port Adelaide have been trying to work out how they can bring in three first-round draft picks to the club. One of those would be a compensation pick. The other two at least would be via trade. With Todd Marshall's name thrown up a while ago, even though he's contracted to the end of 2029 on a pretty lucrative deal, at Port Adelaide Football Club. What's happened here is that the Brisbane Lions last year and Essendon discussed the possibility of sending Jordan Ridley to Brisbane via trade. Now Ridley was said to be traded for a third or fourth rounder, so long as Brisbane upped its offer to Sam Draper so that Essendon received band one compensation.

Tom Morris 1:19

Now that got knocked on the head. The AFL said you can't do that. because you can't conflate the two things.

How are Port Adelaide and the Western Bulldogs navigating the Todd Marshall compensation rules?

Tom Morris 1:24

You can't conflate free agency compensation and also the trade. And a memo was sent to the clubs the day before the grand final last year, which detailed that. So Ridley started Essendon and Sam Draper ended up going to the Brisbane Lions, but Essendon got band two compensation as a return for him. So the purpose of introducing it was so that clubs couldn't manipulate contracts so that the other club, got band one compensation. But Zach Butters is not that. Zach Butters is always getting band one compensation. He's on almost $2 million a year at the Western Bulldogs over nine years. So that's not the issue. And that's what Port and the Western Bulldogs are arguing, that the purpose of introducing this memo or this regulation that the AFL did last year doesn't apply to Zach Butters because they were always going to get band one compensation.

Tom Morris 2:11

The AFL would say it's about the integrity of the draft and they can't just hand over pick five and everyone else gets pushed back. because they want to again conflate the two things, the trade period and the draft. So then Greg Swan goes on AFL 360, Gerard, and he confirms that it will be band one compensation for Zach Butters, which we knew, but it is unusual that the AFL would say this publicly. And I can't imagine how frosty the phone call must have been between Jason Cripps, the Port Adelaide list boss, and Justin Reid at the AFL when Port Adelaide were informed on Wednesday that they weren't allowed to do what they'd been working with the AFL on for several weeks. Whatever backflip had occurred at league headquarters in that time,

Tom Morris 2:49

meant that it just wasn't going to play out the way that Port and also the Western Bulldogs thought. So they're now working on other ways to get this done. They're working out other trades and other draft picks that could go back and forth. And to be fair to Port and the Dogs, they've gone to ground. But most clubs I've spoken to think that this sort of thing should be allowed to happen so long as it doesn't manipulate what the compensation could be. What are your thoughts, Simo, based on what you've read this week? I'm just hanging in there. to

Adam Simpson 3:14

Tom Morris 3:14

honest. What are your thoughts, Toby? It is

Adam Simpson 3:16

complicated. I'm actually... I just think it's so late in the day. What annoys me a little bit, whenever these rules come in, do the ripple. Find out all the things. Get... How would you manipulate this? Because we find that in a year or two, something gets done as, oh, geez, we didn't think of that. And we've got to tweak this or tweak that, or it's a really late call. Like it is, feels like it's a late call now.