Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Chapter 2: What happened during the thrilling draw between Collingwood and Hawthorne?
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Well, I had a good night because I was calling with you and Steve Quartermain and Kenny Hinkley was punching me in the shoulder every second goal because it was a unique game. And that's the beauty about our game. You can have a game where all the numbers are stacked against you and you somehow find a way in front with a minute to go and then you concede seven points with...
You know, they're the best in the comp they used to be. I don't know if they are anymore at handling big moments and close games. I think it just shows you how you can rest on your laurels a tiny bit if you don't keep re-educating on how to manage the last two minutes.
Chapter 3: How did the game's unique dynamics affect player performance?
We used to always hear the two-minute drill that they do and everyone's on the same page. Just still a little bit clunky at the moment, the Pies. They got some things right against Essendon, obviously, but we always thought there might have been a little bit of a false dawn on the opposition and You know, the numbers were off the charts from a Hawthorne point of view. So it was 28 shots today.
We probably heard the stats over the weekend. But, you know, they had 28 more inside 50s. And if field position's an issue, you've just got to look at why. So the minus 14 at centre-bounce clearances, and there's a big factor, because once you lose the clearance, it goes in your oppo's forward 50, and then you've got to deal with in-out-in plays.
They only had eight forward half turnovers themselves, and sometimes that's because they're accurate.
Chapter 4: What strategies did Collingwood use to manage close game situations?
Coming straights in, it's a shot at goal, and you don't get that opportunity to lock it in. So that's a good thing, but you don't go into a game with that strategy. let's only, you know, let's be efficient with the ball and hope they miss. So they've got a little bit of work to do, but, jeez, they defended well.
The way they defend is based on a bit of zone defence, Gerard, which has its problems. Sometimes when the ball hits the deck, no-one's on anyone, and I thought the ground-level players for the Hawks had a little bit more space than normal because there was more emphasis on the air. And in the end, it cost them their very last shot at goal. There was, you know, Maynard flew and Moore, and...
Once again, they got hurt at ground level. So they're minus seven at Crumbs.
Chapter 5: How did Hawthorne's statistics influence their gameplay?
The little things that you look at when you're coaching, from a spectacle point of view, it was just a privilege to be at the game and to see the game of chess happening live. It was really good fun. If you want a player to save your life, it's Tom Barris, isn't it? Big moments, yep. He might have a bad quarter or a bad three quarters, but...
have seen it firsthand when you just need the, not the obvious, what's needed. If it's a mark, it'll be a mark. If it's a 20-metre spall over the boundary line to reset, they're the things that experience gives you. And he's just stood up for so many years. And is he playing his best football is probably the question I'm thinking. Is he playing better than he did it?
At West Coast, he's at least on par in some of the things he's doing around changing the way teams play against you because you're just too good. That's a McGovern thing, and I think that's a Hawthorne thing at the moment. And Darcy Moore, who first up got in the way a little bit and then drops the key mark at the end. He had three or four of those.
Like I said earlier, their system is based on numbers behind the ball because there's a lot of pressure up the ground. And some of the role players, like the Shilts and even Anderson, they're providing so much pressure that the defenders can set up well. Seeing it firsthand is really obvious and it's a really good system. But you need to take the grabs.
So you need to be the predictable player that Moore's just lost his predictability a tiny bit in the last couple of years.
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Chapter 6: What role do individual players like Tom Barris play in critical moments?
So that's not an age thing. That's a confidence thing and synergy thing. So I think he can get back to his best form. But at the moment, you don't want to be clunky when you're a fullback. That's not the spot to drop a mark or miss a ground ball or kick it out of bounds. And that's unfortunately what we saw last night. It was just a little bit of that.
Collingwood's overall, so the past couple of weeks of... been more reassuring than what had happened earlier and so they are attempting to reverse engineer the season negative split it last year they were too good too soon yeah you have to learn the lessons from that I feel like there's a there's an eagerness, almost a desperation to write them off, but you can see what they're working on.
And then it's just a matter of whether they're, where they are going to sit in the scheme of things when they play their best footy. A long way to go. I don't know if this is the pace yourself. I don't think they're in that mode anymore.
I think they're in what's going on mode because as much as they had a stoic game last Thursday, it was a brilliant game to watch and well coached and well executed, but When you're losing inside 50s like that, and the contested possessions, if they're not 18th, they're 17th. And the clearance work's deplorable. They're not a good clearance side.
So if you don't have a clearance in your kit bag and you're not good at contested possessions, what are you? You're good at defence, because you've got to be.
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Chapter 7: What changes are being made in Collingwood's list management philosophy?
So they've got a lot to work on. They're going as well as they possibly can in those other areas, but if you can't get at least competitive... You're not going to win the big games when it really matters. Or if you do, you're going to have to do it like Thursday night where it was just, you know, everything was perfect except for those two areas of the game.
So I just think there's a lot of work to be done to get for them to be in that sweet spot slipstream where you win your six or seven in a row and suddenly you're fighting for top four. That's their goal, I would have thought. When's that going to tick over? You know, resting these players, we can discuss all that. I think the Penelbury one was...
probably a smart choice, and they did in a certain way. We can discuss it another time, how they're managing their list. They've got to get going with some of these areas. Well, their list has had a slight shift in philosophy, hasn't it? Craig Kelly was on SEN before the game, and he gave a small whack to the previous list management group.
He said, in previous years, before the current list management team, we gave up first-round picks a little too easily. They also want to trade in and bring experienced players, but they want to go to the draft a little bit more than they have been, which is a shift from what they've said in the past. That's what Fly said. I don't want drafts. I want players.
That's right, but now they've gone slightly back the other way.
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Chapter 8: What are the implications of player injuries on team performance?
Well, I think it's just an acknowledgement that if you're going to have elite talent, you'd probably need to have a mix of traded-in players and also draft picks, don't you? That's just a hybrid model. It's going to bite you on the bum one day, isn't it, if you just neglect the draft. But there's going to be a repercussion somewhere down the track, and we've gone through that.
I've been through it. Every year is the start of a five-year plan. That's how list management look at it. I'm not sure what's going to work in five years. Oh, no, it's the way they work. You know, every year is the start of a five-year plan. And if you have too many... We had five list managers in six years. So... Typical. Quick one. Andrew Lambert, the physio from Hawthorne. Surgery this week.
Tore one hammy off the bone and the other has tendon damage. He's been in footy more than 20 years. I'm wishing him all the best. That started funny and didn't end nearly as funny. That was the hot seat. Seats are back. 4x4 premium seat covers. Signet is the travel partner of Crunch Time. Stay powered 24-7 with Signet AFL Club Powerbanks.