The Problem With Hydroxyapatite Toothpaste | Zebra's Jenn Thatcher
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What are the concerns about fluoride toothpaste?
You still have these people that are convinced if I don't use toothpaste with fluoride in it, I'm going to get cavities.
God didn't design our bodies to need toothpaste. If you're doing things like having a clean diet and addressing mouth breathing issues, that's the foundation. Most toothpaste companies don't want you to know that your saliva is actually designed to remineralize your teeth. Our position is just we source ingredients and create formulas that honor the systems that God designs. I never wanted another family to be sitting in a hospital room like we were. If anybody's going to create a brand that has uncompromising standards, it's going to be a mother whose children were harmed by the system.
How does hydroxyapatite compare to fluoride in toothpaste?
Everyone in the wellness space suddenly agrees on one thing. Hydroxyapatite toothpaste is the clean alternative to fluoride. But here's the problem. Anytime everyone agrees in wellness, it usually means no one is asking enough questions. Because while hydroxyapatite is being marketed as non-toxic and effective, the reality is a lot more complicated if you ask today's guest, especially when you start talking about nanoparticles, long-term exposure, and what we actually don't know yet. Today's guest didn't just go along with the trend, she pushed back on it. After believing her children were affected by products she trusted and then facing her son's brain tumor diagnosis, she became relentless about ingredient safety, questioning everything, including the ingredients now being labeled as safe alternatives.
What personal experiences led to the creation of Zebra toothpaste?
Jen Thatcher is the founder of Zebra, a non-toxic personal care brand built on one principle, Clean is black and white. There's no gray area. Watch today's episode on the Real Alex Clark YouTube channel or Culture Apothecary on Spotify. Don't forget to pause. Leave a five-star review really quick. Let us know what was the first episode you ever listened to of the show. Maybe it's this one. Maybe it was another one. I'd love to know the first one and then your favorite one. Keep the discussion going in the Cute Servatives Facebook group. Please welcome my friend, Jen Thatcher, the founder of Zebra to Culture Apothecary.
What are the potential risks of using hydroxyapatite toothpaste?
Everything that I thought that I knew about oral hygiene was apparently garbage. I mean, the type of toothpaste that we're supposed to be using, the floss that we're supposed to be using, you know, just mouthwash in general. Mouthwash is terrible for your oral microbiome. Nobody told me any of that. And you still have these people that are convinced if I don't use toothpaste with fluoride in it, I'm going to get cavities. So I'm willing to go non-toxic on everything, but I've got to keep fluoride in my toothpaste or my cavities are going to come back. What's your response to that?
I don't think that's accurate. So Zebra's response is obviously different than most of the dentist-owned toothpaste brands because we look at how the body is designed and it was designed by the creator. So God didn't design our bodies to need toothpaste in general. So if you're doing things like having a clean diet and addressing mouth breathing issues, like that's the foundation. But then to go even further, most toothpaste companies don't want you to know that your saliva is actually designed to remineralize your teeth. And so your saliva is rich in calcium and phosphate, and it pulls in ions and proteins and minerals, and it's just a super sophisticated advanced mineral delivery system. So you actually have an onboard remineralization system.
How does diet impact oral health according to the guest?
And so that's why at Zebra we created our formula to work with the body and support that remineralization system. But it doesn't contain fluoride and it doesn't contain hydroxyapatite because we just want to support the system that God created.
So if somebody throws out their fluoride toothpaste tomorrow, what actually is determining if they get a cavity or not?
They definitely need to have a clean diet. Like that's the foundation. And then again, the mouth breathing and addressing tongue ties, not snacking all the time is really important because we want to make sure that you're giving the saliva a chance to like rest and pull all those minerals and ions and all the good things into it.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What are the concerns about fluoride toothpaste?
0:00–1:06
2
How does hydroxyapatite compare to fluoride in toothpaste?
1:06–1:50
3
What personal experiences led to the creation of Zebra toothpaste?
1:50–2:22
4
What are the potential risks of using hydroxyapatite toothpaste?
2:22–3:41
5
How does diet impact oral health according to the guest?
3:41–4:34
6
What are the misconceptions about natural personal care products?
4:34–5:26
7
What unique ingredients does Zebra use in its products?
5:26–6:14
8
How can consumers make informed choices about personal care products?
6:14–1:12:52
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