In this episode, Kevin and Jason sit down to talk shop with George Kamide and George Al-Koura the hosts of the awesome podcast "Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks." Their podcast is focused on talking about whether or not there truly is a vendor/customer divide. It's a cybersecurity podcast dedicated to answering that question. George Kamide comes from the vendor side, and George Al-Koura is a CISO on the customer side. They have REAL conversations from opposing sides of the pitch about cybersecurity marketing, sales, and go-to-market strategies. They confront these topics and bad practices with bare knuckles. Then it's down to brass tacks, as they look for solutions. They have guests on either side, including CISOs, SMEs, leaders, frontline account managers, and more. George Kamide is a Multi-disciplinary thinker with a penchant for blowing up silos. He loves tackling big problems. This might mean orchestrating go-to-market product strategies, or creating stimulating thought leadership in dynamic tech environments. Other times it means taking on industry-wide issues of representation, customer/vendor trust challenges, or big questions like responsible AI. George Al-Koura is a CISO Chief Information Security Officer, he leads the strategy and execution of cybersecurity for a global online dating company that empowers people to connect and explore their relationships. He has over 15 years of experience in the security profession, spanning military, government, and commercial sectors, with a focus on cyber and security threat intelligence. We pick their brains on their podcast, their origin story, and much, much more… Jason Popillion is a CISSP and serves as a CIO/CTO of a SaaS company and Kevin Pentecost is a CISSP, CISM, CEH, CPT, MPCS, MCSE, CCA, ITIL-F and serves as the Information Security Director for a Manufacturing company. CITATIONS: Links to find the Bare Knuckles Team: Web: https://www.bareknucklespod.com/ LinkedIn: Bare Knuckles: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bare-knuckles-brass-tacks/ George Kamide: https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-kamide/ George Al-Koura: https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-y-al-koura/ SquadCon: https://blackgirlshack.org/

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