In episode 130 of Cybersecurity Where You Are, Sean Atkinson and Tony Sager are joined by John Gilligan, President and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the Center for Internet Security® (CIS®). Set against the backdrop of the 2025 CIS Annual Full Staff Meeting, they celebrate 25 years of CIS, including the "serendipity" by which the company became a global cybersecurity thought leader. They also discuss how this thought leadership may evolve over the next 25 years. Here are some highlights from our episode:01:30. How CIS started along with how John and Tony initially got involved07:12. How CIS thought leadership changed with the absorption of the "SANS Top 20," the precursor of the CIS Critical Security Controls11:04. The "serendipity" through which CIS grew and formalized its sales, funding, support, and other operations in the 2010s15:18. How mission and culture advanced CIS to its 25th anniversary in 202522:52. What the future might hold for "CIS 2.0"Resources25 Years of Creating Confidence in the Connected WorldEpisode 97: How Far We've Come preceding CIS's 25th BirthdayEpisode 114: 3 Board Chairs Reflect on 25 Years of CommunityEpisode 76: The Role of Thought Leadership in CybersecurityEpisode 125: How Leadership Principles Influence CIS CultureEpisode 120: How Contextual Awareness Drives AI GovernanceEpisode 119: Multidimensional Threat Defense at Large EventsIf you have some feedback or an idea for an upcoming episode of Cybersecurity Where You Are, let us know by emailing [email protected].

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