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#281 - Biblical Evidence Jesus Christ was TRIPPING BALLS on the Cross | Ammon Hillman

Thu, 23 Jan 2025

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Watch this episode uncensored & ad-free on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Dr. Ammon Hillman earned his MS in Bacteriology and Ph.D. in Classics from the University of Wisconsin Madison, where he specialized in Ancient Greek and Roman medicine and pharmacy. Dr. Hillman was recently investigated by the Vatican for demon possession and portal opening while teaching as a professor of Classical Languages. He currently teaches ancient Greek on his @ladybabylon666 YouTube channel. SPONSORS https://truewerk.com/danny - Get 15% off your first order. https://shopify.com/dannyjones - Sign up for your $1 per month trial. https://buy.ver.so/danny - Get 15% off your first order. EPISODE LINKS Ammon's YouTube Channel: @ladybabylon666 The Chemical Muse: https://amzn.to/3V6hOwb FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Why no one will debate Ammon 13:25 - Christianity vs classical civilization 17:27 - The FIRST Christ 25:06 - the Rod of Hermes 28:31 - History of the word "Christ" 35:27 - Jesus' relationship with Mary 40:21 - Why are we so far behind the Greeks? 43:38 - Epic of Gilgamesh vs. Aristotle 48:31 - Is the Septuagint a Greek original? 01:04:14 - Using drugs to control ancient populations 01:07:05 - The Talmud 01:10:08 - Carl Ruck & Ammon's relationship 01:16:47 - Mary Magdalene's salvation 01:22:05 - Jesus encouraged people to use drugs 01:22:52 - Jesus was tripping during his crucifixion 01:32:50 - Nero's death inducers 01:40:40 - Caligula 01:51:02 - New Egyptian mug discovery 01:56:30 - Reverse engineering the Bible 02:07:02 - Truth about Plato 02:12:23 - Ammon responds to Wesley Huff 02:21:44 - Jesus at the park with a young boy 02:28:44 - How Ammon got fired from University of Wisconsin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: Why won't anyone debate Dr. Hillman?

0.309 - 27.985 Danny Jones

my following guest is one of the world's leading classical philologists and experts in ancient greek who was famously accused of demon possession and portal opening by the catholic church before he was ejected by his university due to the highly disturbing nature of this episode it had to be heavily censored with parts redacted i know you can handle it but youtube can't if you really want to see the parts that were cut out and avoid the ads it's available on patreon hammer that subscribe button below

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29.406 - 30.206 Danny Jones

and enjoy the show.

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36.728 - 39.349 Unknown

All right, kiddos, we are rolling. Yeah.

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45.371 - 46.211 Danny Jones

Welcome back brother.

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46.231 - 57.735 Ammon Hillman

Hail Satan. How's that tobacco? Oh God. It's wonderful.

61.015 - 88.771 Danny Jones

thank you for having me of course it's my pleasure my pleasure we uh you caused a ruckus on that first podcast we did okay and uh I've learned so much since that first podcast yeah fantastic um some of the texts that we're gonna go into today are gonna make me want to throw up so I brought my barf bag I'm ready the Greeks were sickos the Greeks were into some nasty shit yeah

89.676 - 102.08 Ammon Hillman

Yeah, so was Jesus. I've got a text for you today about Jesus that we're going to go with him out in the back. In the back alley? No, he takes her up into the woods.

102.3 - 102.62 Unknown Speaker

Okay.

103.1 - 108.762 Ammon Hillman

Yeah, and I'm going to show you a text that's going to make your skin crawl. But this is the way, brother.

Chapter 2: What is the connection between Christianity and classical civilization?

191.746 - 216.064 Ammon Hillman

Once you show them the reality, oh God, it's like you break open some kind of new portal and you're able to push the person through and it's like they come alive and And the basis of that of the text and the reason people are afraid is, you know, this beautiful, beautiful thing that we have called ancient Greek, this mother who's so sexy.

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218.005 - 243.282 Ammon Hillman

You have to really know what you're doing and have experience and training. in the language, and all of our evidence from antiquity. I wouldn't just sit here and make up stuff with you, Danny. I wouldn't. All of our evidence from antiquity, that's what I handle, and people are afraid of that. Right? People are afraid of that. So, good, good. That's what I'm going to show you today.

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243.382 - 272.174 Ammon Hillman

Jesus engaging in sexual, drug-induced cult with Mary. You're going to love it. You're going to love it. It's just a text. People ask me, Dan, I wanted to say, and that's one of the things I put on the interview, misconceptions. People have misconceptions about me. They do. I don't have any opinions or judgments. I'm not selling you a theory. I have nothing.

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272.614 - 289.698 Ammon Hillman

That's why Lady Babylon on YouTube is not monetized. I have a contract with the devil. Everybody knows that I'm open. I can't make a cent on this. So that scares people, too. That does scare people. Yeah.

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Chapter 3: Who was the first Christ and what does it signify?

290.219 - 310.914 Danny Jones

And I think that's metal as fuck that you do that. Awesome. Because... Explain, explain why you don't want to bring money into this. Do you think that bringing money into it, into the stuff that you're doing kind of poisons the well?

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312.011 - 349.308 Ammon Hillman

Yeah, beautifully. I'll put that back on, but beautifully. I need to participate in this because you just hit the nail on the head. You poison the well of inspiration when you sell it. The minute that you take that coin, the material loses its attachment to the reality behind the quantum physics that they called the muse. Right? You have to keep that well pure.

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349.948 - 380.86 Ammon Hillman

And that's why the devil's writing it into all the contracts. You can't get what you want. You can't get that esoteric knowledge. You can't get that vision of what is that quantum reality without the integrity. The Greeks said it this way in a chorus of furies. They said your greed stains your soul with a stench of ruin.

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382.27 - 405.961 Ammon Hillman

So it's a process of all the Greek religion is a process of purification, that mystery religion. You know, those are all purifications. That's one of the pollutions, man, is that greed. So that's why I can't monetize Lady Babylon. And I don't want to make any money. She's not a, you know, she's not, I'm not hooking. You know what I mean? It's brothelry. There's a lot of brothelry.

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406.001 - 415.861 Ammon Hillman

YouTube smells like a brothel. Doesn't it? A lot of brothery. And that taints the material. The muse isn't going to speak to you, baby. Sorry.

415.881 - 416.841 Danny Jones

Yeah.

417.121 - 417.522 Ammon Hillman

That's it.

418.222 - 429.128 Danny Jones

No, and you're not, also you're not beholden to anything. You're not beholden to any sort of, any institution, any university. Correct. Anything like that. You're, like you said the last time, you're Ronan.

Chapter 4: How does the Rod of Hermes relate to ancient practices?

429.288 - 429.708 Ammon Hillman

Right.

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429.748 - 432.73 Danny Jones

You're completely detached from anything. Right.

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433.65 - 448.4 Ammon Hillman

It gives me a freedom from some of the stuff that I'm going to tell you today. Some of the stuff that I'm going to bring you is I could only bring you because I am not a professor anymore. And I am not in any academic institution.

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Chapter 5: What is the history behind the word 'Christ'?

449.001 - 455.085 Danny Jones

Sorry to interrupt. For people that maybe didn't watch the first episode, tell us your actual academic history.

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455.485 - 481.334 Ammon Hillman

Just really quick, classics, PhD, right? Masters, of course, classics, but also bacteriology. Love it. Got a little molecular biology background. Love it. Lab work. Oh, God, I love those heads. Brains. Give me brains. By the way, Danny, can I just say, you...

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484.516 - 504.971 Ammon Hillman

are setting up something gorgeous here bringing people together to be able to look at this material and to be able to engage at this level that's fantastic that's that's that's better than journalism that's that's the beginning of the end man that's that's Oh God, I love it.

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505.091 - 518.409 Danny Jones

So last time you were on here, the first time, the first show we did, I made it clear up front that I wasn't prepared for the conversation we had. Although I read your book and I listened to your podcast with Hamilton.

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519.454 - 540.24 Danny Jones

But like going back to like how I started the conversation to explaining your performative way of teaching this stuff, it has inspired me to be fascinated in these things and continue to dive down this rabbit hole. And I've invited like half a dozen people on the show since to –

541.934 - 558.604 Danny Jones

either corroborate what you're saying or shut down what you're saying or at least show some sort of counter evidence or give me some more context to what you're saying because there's nobody else that's saying what you're saying. Or at least I can't find it. Right.

559.304 - 580.096 Danny Jones

there wouldn't be so and and that's like a common thread on this show i will typically have people on here that will say something right that that many people won't agree with and then other people will reach out and say hey this guy's full of shit let me come present my evidence right which is good that's a gymnasium that's an ancient

Chapter 6: How does Jesus' relationship with Mary challenge traditional views?

580.416 - 581.958 Ammon Hillman

Greek gymnasium. Correct.

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581.978 - 606.53 Danny Jones

It's wrestling. Perfect. Well, a lot of people made videos kind of like responding to what you were saying, like edited videos, calling out bullshit on you, saying that you messed up. You were lying. You were taking stuff out of context. Yet we, so people know, we quite literally reached out to... I don't know, Steve, what was it? Two, three dozen scholars?

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607.131 - 618.979 Unknown

Yeah, there was a lot. There was a lot. I asked an AI to give me like a list of 50 and half of them were dead.

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618.999 - 650.859 Danny Jones

A few of them were from Harvard. A few of them were classical philologists from Harvard. Theologians, biblical scholars. Oh, God. All of which said they would not be comfortable to come debate you. Let me tell you again. So I got to keep rolling with this until I can find somebody. Yes. To prove you wrong.

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651.359 - 652.921 Ammon Hillman

We just want to talk about the Bible.

Chapter 7: What can we learn from the Epic of Gilgamesh compared to Aristotle?

652.941 - 654.042 Danny Jones

We just want to talk about the Bible.

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654.062 - 680.507 Ammon Hillman

You've got to bait them, Danny. You've got to bait them. Look, if this is going to work out as my place of feasting, you've got to bait these people better. Right? They know. Here's the problem. What makes them afraid? What makes them afraid? It is that, that old reason that sits in our brain and tells us, you know, I don't believe in fairy tales. I want some science.

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681.877 - 694.902 Ammon Hillman

And they know that that's what a classical philologist does is they work with the science of the language. And when you look at these texts, it's going to blow your whole mind of what you thought.

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695.342 - 703.445 Danny Jones

Did you say on the last podcast or have you ever said that you're the only one who knows this stuff and reads this stuff?

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703.726 - 731.686 Ammon Hillman

No, no, no. Any classicist. And there's a few who have started studying Galen. Any classicist can come to you and say, hey, you know the sources that he's talking about, like Nero's arch physician that's in Galen that talks about the drugs that are being used and the death rights? Him? And they can look it up. They can go to their classes. They can go look it up. They can check the Greek out.

732.226 - 753.893 Ammon Hillman

Now, classical departments have been falling behind. And that's why it's particular to me. That's why you don't have hundreds of people coming up and saying, oh, my God, did you know Christ is a drug? Right. You don't have people doing that. So your guys at Harvard or Yale, those people are smart enough to know that I'm just talking text.

754.893 - 779.575 Ammon Hillman

And they can tell whether or not I'm a trained classical scholar. What you call a philologist. Is that due to classical philologists? They can tell. And unfortunately, the fakers and the phonies can tell as well. And that's why when you invite people and they don't come, it's because they're unable to. One of the people that you invited is now on a big show.

780.989 - 785.591 Danny Jones

Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because he did the debate with somebody that blew up.

785.931 - 787.872 Ammon Hillman

Right. And he's not here now.

Chapter 8: How were drugs used to control ancient populations?

1120.76 - 1122.382 Danny Jones

And what's the fifth? Resurrection?

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1122.842 - 1142.163 Ammon Hillman

No. Oh, God, I forgot the fifth. I'll thank you in a minute. Where's that? Too much tobacco. I need some more of the tobacco to jog my memory. But all of those, gospel. See? It works. Gospel.

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1142.924 - 1173.277 Ammon Hillman

gospel people don't realize it that's the that's the beautiful one can i of course please yeah yeah yeah um tobacco yay the what is the oh god where's where's my lighter oh it's there isn't it how can you under this there it is It's under my hat. Gospel. People don't realize that the word gospel is the word that you use when a drug is given to a person. It's the drug's efficacy.

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1173.897 - 1201.653 Ammon Hillman

The gospel is what brings you salvation. salvation right and remember there's no clear delineation between drug use and religion and medicine those are all part of the same world this is why you have prophets anybody knows and this is what's i'm gonna rock the world with this are you ready and people can be oh how can he how can he say that look at the text people

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1203.214 - 1214.37 Ammon Hillman

The only, the only thing that a prophet designates is somebody who sees visions via drugs.

1217.58 - 1220.643 Danny Jones

And prophets were people who were bombed on drugs.

1220.763 - 1235.341 Ammon Hillman

Yeah. Not just bomb, but, you know, like integrated into their whole. They were like shamans. Repertoire. Yeah. That you could touch their clothing and everybody knew you're going to get some kind of blessing. You know what I mean?

1235.361 - 1235.621 Steve

Yeah.

1235.981 - 1241.347 Ammon Hillman

Yeah. A vision, perhaps. A vision. I'm sorry. Am I yelling in your ear? No, you're fine.

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