Danny Jones Podcast
#287 - UFO Whistleblowers, NASA Time Travel & Psychic Soldiers | Jesse Michels
24 Feb 2025
Watch every episodes ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Jesse Michels is an investor & journalist known for his YouTube show "American Alchemy," where he explores UFOs, physics, philosophy and the nature of reality. His YouTube channel features interviews with notable figures such as Jacques Vallée, Garry Nolan, Hal Puthoff, Eric Weinstein & Dave Grusch. In addition to his online endeavors, Jesse manages a venture portfolio on behalf of Thiel Capital. SPONSORS https://manscaped.com - Use code DANNYJONES to get 20% off plus free shipping. https://evening.ver.so/danny - Use code DANNY for 15% off your first order. https://hims.com/danny - Start your FREE online visit today. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off GUEST LINKS Jesse's YouTube Channel: @JesseMichels https://whop.com/jessemichels https://www.instagram.com/jessemichelsofficial FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - The 'GHOST' agent of the UFO world 07:12 - Thomas Townsend Brown 18:08 - Investing for Peter Thiel 23:30 - Paul Bennewitz story 27:32 - UFOs & nukes 35:26 - Why did CIA hire Bob Lazar? 45:14 - Jacques Vallee's obsession with angels & demons 48:23 - Alex Jones' secret genius 54:25 - Varginha & Roswell UFO crashes 01:01:31 - Why do UFOs crash? 01:06:05 - Whitley Strieber & experiments on children 01:16:43 - Rogue government with alien tech 01:24:37 - Tic Tacs causing nuclear communications outage 01:32:04 - How would society react to alien disclosure? 01:39:33 - Collapse of intellectualism 01:49:39 - Skeptics 01:55:21 - Jake Barber 02:13:09 - Risk of summoning aliens 02:24:55 - Mike Masters' alien evolution theory 02:35:46 - String theory is a limited hangout 02:54:25 - Counter-Intel & the UFO community 03:03:31 - #1 scariest alien & UFO theory 03:06:08 - Jesse's UFO experience 03:18:57 - Censorship of alien content 03:23:30 - USAID funding UFO disinformation 03:26:29 - How the CIA made Google Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Full Episode
What's up, Jesse Michaels? What's up, Danny Jones? Like I just said to you, bro, you're going to have to pull me back into the believer. Make me a believer again, because the more I learn about UFOs, the more I am just out on this topic lately.
That's understandable. And I'm not here to bring you back. I'm not an evangelist. I do think... Damn it. I'm sorry. I do think if the question is, is the topic worthy of further investigation? And is there something very interesting at the bottom of all of this? you get to the final room, is there something interesting going on? My answer would be, I think yes.
But yeah, I don't want to evangelize. I think in many ways, interest in UFOs is maladaptive and a distraction for a lot of people and doesn't make sense.
Yes, yes. There's a lot of shit you got to cut through, bro. Not just the, if you want to talk about PSYOP stuff, sure, there's a lot of stuff you got to cut through with that. But then there's a whole nother layer of... of people monetizing this. There's a business, right?
We're doing a podcast in a spaceship about UFOs because my audience loves UFOs and I'm going to make money talking about UFOs. Half the books on that shelf are about fucking UFOs. So it's a huge business too, which muddies the water even more.
Yeah, it totally muddies the water and it's a weird dynamic. And I think when you have a topic that's kind of pointing at the sacred, you know, it might be the tip of the iceberg. It's not the rest of the iceberg. It's just an unidentified flying object is not necessarily what you're going for.
I think a lot of people that are into it are like ultimately meaning seekers and they want like kind of a... They want to understand the reality of religion. They want to understand metaphysics. And so I think UFOs are just a foray. They're just one kind of route in. But I think combining that with money is a very weird thing. I mean, it's like sort of the modern Catholic indulgences or something.
It doesn't really work.
Right. Yeah, totally, man. So we were just talking before we started rolling.
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