Danny Jones Podcast
#289 - New DMT Study Finds Evidence Aliens Are Simulating Our Reality | Zoltan Bathory & Danny Goler
Tue, 11 Mar 2025
Watch every episode ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Zoltan Bathory is a musician, martial artist & founder of Five Finger Death Punch. Danny Goler is a filmmaker who created an experiment with DMT & laser beams that suggests we could living inside a simulated computational reality. SPONSORS https://twc.health/danny - Use code DANNY for up to $30 off + free shipping. https://bit.ly/viiadannyjones - Use code DANNY for 15% off. https://evening.ver.so/danny - Use code DANNY for 15% off your first order. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off DANNY GOLER LINKS YouTube Channel: @dangothoughts https://www.tiktok.com/@dannygoler https://www.instagram.com/dannygoler https://twitter.com/GolerDanny ZOLTAN LINKS https://www.instagram.com/zoltanbathory @FiveFingerDeathPunch FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Psychedelic super soldiers 09:38 - Zoltan's jiu jitsu training 20:04 - Zoltan's near death experience 34:27 - How Zoltan escaped Hungary 40:52 - The truth about the burning monk 50:51 - Hacking the body's operating system with meditation 59:47 - Tapping into the universal consciousness 01:05:07 - Zoltan's work in the aerospace industry 01:14:08 - The "cup of consciousness" analogy 01:26:18 - End of spiritual childhood 01:33:42 - How to map the DMT space with science 01:42:19 - Objecthood & the gestalt of reality 01:52:45 - Reality is a hologram 02:01:46 - NEW DMT laser experiment using magnets 02:11:02 - Seeing DMT code without DMT? 02:26:07 - Correcting the map of human history 02:33:09 - The purpose of human existence 02:47:17 - Dropping your "anchor" of reality in experience 02:55:59 - Kicked out of the DMT space by a 'being' 03:11:32 - What NDEs and DMT have in common 03:22:30 - Asking for help from DMT creatures 03:33:12 - Using DMT as a tool for human optimization 03:49:18 - Experiments to help you break out of the matrix 04:01:13 - "Burning man magic" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are psychedelic super soldiers?
Oh, we are rolling. Beautiful. Like you mean jiu-jitsu rolling or just rolling?
Not jiu-jitsu rolling, just regular rolling. Maybe later we'll do some jiu-jitsu rolling. I got to bring my mat over here, though. Maybe you can smoke DMT and then you guys can roll. Could you imagine?
It wouldn't be much of a roll. I mean, he'd play with me like some cat toy or something.
I think that's regardless. Well, Dan Hardy, right? The MMA fighter. He used to talk about his usage of psychedelics in fighting. Who? Dan Hardy was his name? I don't know who that is. Yeah, he was a famous UFC fighter. Really? Yeah, and he used to talk about how he used to get in the cage on mushrooms. And he said, I can see the future.
He said, like, I can see that. Well, you know, they do that. They give that to war fighters now. Remember that article I sent you last night? They're giving people in Ukraine, they're giving Ukrainian soldiers Ibogaine and like that and psychedelics, psychedelic mushrooms. DARPA is doing this study.
They're funding people at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, I think, to study the use of psychedelics like Ibogaine and even psilocybin on soldiers and on the battlefield.
On the battlefield?
On the battlefield for like edge detection. Oh, I thought it was for healing. Well, not just that, but to be more optimal with a fucking gun. Ibogaine? I guess.
The story you sent me looked like... Did you read it? I just saw the title because it was in the middle of the night. But the title seemed to have been implying that it's for healing, like a trauma.
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Chapter 2: How did Zoltan escape Hungary?
So Zoltan loves stories, he has a lot of stories, but at the same time, the execution level is so high, right? Every single thing he touches, I call him like a master pattern recognizer. The martial arts, the music, he was never taught to play the guitar. So he just understands what patterns work.
He just started, what I started telling you, he started building this property he got, and then he was like, well, maybe I'll get into understanding some things about architecture. Pulls one of the most reputable architects in Vegas back from retirement, brings them into the project. The reason I started telling you the story is because we met the guy when he was already finishing the project.
He told us... completely unsolicited, he said, Zoltan is the most talented architect he's ever worked with in his life. And I said, wait, are you an architect? Zoltan goes, no, I just understand what works. So he gave him ideas that he never thought about. So he has this one of these minds that just understands what works in terms of functionality and outcome. And this is fascinating. Yeah.
And this is why when he started talking about the space, usually it's a conversation between two guys like, dude, I went to that space. I did this thing. Oh, my God, it was crazy. Blew my mind. Yeah.
But it doesn't usually come from someone like Zoltan, who's like, on the other hand, you know, like has all these responsibilities and serious stuff and all these businesses riding on his shoulders that he has to make like serious decisions. Hmm. And somehow it all works. And Zoltan always, if you hang out with Zoltan, like just one-on-one, it always looks like he's just hanging out.
Like there's no effort whatsoever. And I had this moment, I'm just going to share this one small anecdote. At this moment, we're sitting with Aaron, the director of the film. Again, shout out to Aaron Vanden. We were at Zoltan's show. We went to see Fifing a Death Punch. And we're sitting there and Zoltan is sitting and talking to everybody after the show.
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Chapter 3: What is the truth about the burning monk?
Security, other people, like all this stuff happening, right? And Aaron and Zoltan are sitting and Zoltan is telling him a story. And then later we spoke to Aaron and he goes like, dude, how does he have time to talk and talk to us? And I go like, I don't know. But I'm like, do you understand that everything around us right now, the arena, the security, the...
Everything that is happening right now, this is a machine that he built. The buses here, everything. Now, obviously, there's other people involved, and obviously, they're doing their jobs and everything. But the mind to put everything together in a way so it works like this lubricated machine, that's all Zoltan. So somehow he put it together in a way that now you can just sit.
and enjoy and not worry about too many things like i said he he travels with a posse of all black belts in brazilian jiu-jitsu and a full dojo just so he gets to also train so he kind of he thought of everything how many black belts do you travel with on your tour the last tour we had seven seven and you guys just what drop a mat out in the out in the driveway and just so i'm carrying my mats and then pretty much i had two video guys two video guys both of them black best the rigger light guys a black belt
and you video the sessions sometimes yeah sometimes but that's super helpful so i can train basically yeah like but that's that's the case for the last you know like 19 20 years i always had at least one and as as we you know we're progressing and more crew we can afford everybody i would hire i would hire people who have a skill set and also martial artists
you can expect more from a person who's a martial artist it's because martial arts restructure is your mind you you start thinking differently right because you know i started when i was a kid i was nine years old and um and it develops rewiring in mind meaning like it develops a personality that otherwise you wouldn't and it doesn't mean that you have to start when you're really young you can start right now it still will do the same thing right because there is there are these moments where okay you have to go on the mat and fight this other guy so what happens there
Procrastination. Can you push this fight back? No. This is happening right now. So you have to accept the inevitable. This is going to happen right now, you like it or not, comfortable or not. This is going to happen. So you have to accept those things and if you parallel that to life, things happen and you have to deal with that. Then second, Nobody can jump in. This is not a group effort.
This is going to be you and the other guy. So now we're going to save you. So you have to be responsible for everything that's going to happen. So there's a teaching in that. And then as a martial artist, you start to, let's say, the fight starts or the match starts. And then you have to figure this out. Again, in life, difficult things are happening and you have to figure it out.
You get caught in uncomfortable situations and you have to know when to fight your way out or where to tap and fight another day. So that's a skill that you will have to understand in life. And the skill that... My natural reaction is to figure out a way. I have to problem solve when both mentally and physically I'm being pressured, basically. It's because it's a human chess game.
So it's both mentally and physically intensive. And then as you master this, you start to realize that, wait a minute. I can also use your motion against you. And so the uncomfortable situation will turn into advantages. And it's the same thing in life. That's what crisis management is. You look at a crisis like, wait a minute, I can use this.
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Chapter 4: How can meditation hack the body's operating system?
like when you have some kind of adversity i don't think about the adversity i mean immediately go to the solution i don't even think about it so it's that that that element is not there anymore like oh my god right oh my god what do we do now that doesn't happen it's like the situation happens and immediately i i automatically go into a solution and ultimately go into how do i use this
whatever it is that's happening how do i use it as an advantage just and it becomes automatic if you start to live your life that way it's it's a game now it's the whole thing is a game it's a chess game so life becomes this chess game of of uh basically strategy and then it becomes fun right and then once you walk on it once you do it for a while you walk on a mat you don't you're not scared doesn't matter how big the other guy is it's like okay he's like 350 pounds can i beat him
I'm not thinking like, oh my God, I might die. No. It's like, can I beat him? Is there a way? How am I going to beat him? Right. See what I mean? And so that becomes your personality. And then that, you know, I think that's one of the reasons I became successful. Overcoming obstacles. Because it's, yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing.
You are, you know, you're looking at a situation and you look at it, it's a problem, right? Yeah.
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Now back to the show. In life, like, ooh, there's a, you know, there's a problem.
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Chapter 5: What is the connection between DMT and universal consciousness?
I look at it like, oh, it's an obstacle I have to jump over. It's fun.
Yes. Yesterday when we were sitting and having dinner, you asked Zoltan a question that I kind of chuckled at. You asked, what do you do in your, like, what do you, what do you do? Like, what do you do on a day to day? What do you do every day? Like, what's your routine?
And that's a really funny question if you actually get to hang out with him for a little bit, because I've seen, I've, I've seen the switch. So like yesterday you just experienced like us just talking and exchanging stories and all of that stuff. Yeah. I saw the switch happen with Zoltan when somebody walked in the room and said something to him.
One of these like, you know, in the movie moments where somebody kind of whispers something in his ear, like something happened. And you see like this immediate switch in his face. He goes, he just gets up. He gets like, all right, I'll be right back. Walked outside, comes back and something just happened, right?
Something, he just solved some kind of a problem and you never felt it as the guest, right? Like you just walked outside, you saw something was going on. Somebody asked something, he had to like give input, serious input. He comes back out, hey, and you just continue with the conversation of like, whoa, holy shit.
So there's like, there's this immediate switch of like, oh, we got to go into a different mode now. Okay. The warrior kind of wakes up and you see it in real time. It's very interesting. It's also why I realized that nothing that he does, at least from my interaction with you so far, is unintentional. So when we just sit and hang out, it's like, yeah, that's my free time.
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Chapter 6: How does Zoltan's work relate to the aerospace industry?
I'm going to talk about whatever is close to my heart and I want to talk about. But he never does a thing that is unintentional. And because of that, when he told me, okay, he recently just decided to come on my podcast, which is not even that huge yet. So there was a very intentional decision.
It's like, no, I think this is important to talk about now because I never, he never spoke about this publicly ever before because there was no reason for it. It was just, you know, and now he felt like it's important enough. And I took that also as well. First of all, it's kind of like a check mark of like, okay, we're on the right path here.
But also, there's an understanding that something, even if we don't fully understand what it is, none of us, there's something very major that is going on that needs attention. And that attention needs to be put on in the right way.
Not just, you know, like I see a lot of people kind of like in a lot of different communities from spiritual communities of the awakening, UAP communities, disclosure, the arising of AGI in the tech world. All of these things seem to be like types of crescendos that are arriving. And we're all in some relationship to them. The mapping of the human mind, neural link, all of these things, right?
And it seems like... And the truth is that none of us actually knows what the real thing is, my discovery. But I don't think it's coincidence. I don't think it's a coincidence. I think all of this is almost like the universe goes like, hey, pay attention.
Yeah, there's end of childhood. Yeah, this conversation is going to get very... meta for lack of a better term and we're going to talk about a lot of deep philosophical ideas and and but also impractical things practical stuff the dmt i want to get into the dmt laser stuff but before we do that i'm i'm really interested in hearing your origin story
and where you come from and how you grew up and how you ended up here.
Origin. Like Adam and Eve? Yes, exactly. The snake in the garden. So basically I grew up in Hungary. At the time it was a communist country. So I grew up in Hungary and set out to be a scientist.
um the the communist had this you know this idea of separating people into various casts of like you they come to the kindergarten which by the way we walk to in the snow when i was i don't know four years old five years old that's complete normal the snow is taller than me and the and the kindergarten is like three four miles away and your parents just put you out in the cold so all right kid don't die that way um don't get lost and um you know and then see you later that's it that was completely normal
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Chapter 7: What is the 'cup of consciousness' analogy?
Anyway, so we have a pretty different upbringing. You know, like, okay, here's a spear. You go and fight for your food. You know, it's Sparta. And so they come to the schools and they pick out the kids and they're like, okay, you're good at this. We're going to put you in a special school. You're good at, let's say, athleticism. And then you go to a school that is specifically for sports.
And so they pick me out and they're like, okay, you're math, science, you know, and we're going to put you in a special school. So I had like two or three math classes every day. Yeah.
that was my jam i was gonna be a particle scientist that was i was interested in a moment i could read that you know instead of reading you know books about cowboys and indians and everybody did i'm like deep down in the tectonic systems of the of the planet and you know and uh particle science and that was my jam and um and then somewhere around when i was 12 years old i had a
Because we're sitting here, so I'm going to contact this story. I had an out-of-body experience. I had an accident. And at the time, I didn't understand what happened. But I didn't look at my own body. I hit a truck with my low bicycle. But I had the sensation of whatever I wanted to look at, wherever I wanted to go, I was just there. And I understood like, whoa, something's bizarre.
Something's weird. And I got up. Eventually, I sit up. I was in a pool of blood with a circle of people around me. And I just grabbed my bicycle, went home. You know, my mother, it's a communist country. That's how it works. Like, kid, I'm bleeding out of my head. It's like, kid, don't get it on the carpet. That's it. That's it.
You know, you can have a sword sticking out of your head and like, oh, I probably should go to the hospital. But you got to walk because I'm busy. So, you know, that's pretty much how this worked. And so I went to the library and I started to search. And at the time, the Google search of the times were like...
You're reading the books, and then you have footnotes, and you just simply find where those excerpts are coming from. So I dug down the path of eventually I found books about life after death, and eventually found Eastern philosophy. So by the time I was like 14, 15, I was knee-deep into Kriya Yoga and meditation and all that. And I also had issues with science.
So I had a moment when I was about 15, I started to battle my professors about theoretical math. I disagreed with a lot of things and there are issues of practical math and theoretical math. So I had a conflict there while I'm researching and experiencing math.
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Chapter 8: How to map the DMT space with science?
um early days of wasn't psychedelics so to speak but i'm down on that path yoga meditation it's a science breathing techniques various techniques because that seemed to be connected to what you were the idea that you were searching for with that near-death experience you had i i understood very early the question that while we have you know maybe scientists like
You know, Higgs and Einstein, and you know, this is important. This is very important. Their work is really important. Science is really important. I was going to be a scientist. But ultimately, the most important question, all these things, science is subservient of the most important question. The most important question, what the hell is going on? What's going on? Why are we here? Who we are?
Why? What is this, right? So if you look at science, why are we looking for science? In one way, yeah, we want to make ourselves comfortable. We invent things and build things to make ourselves less dependent on physical labor, right? That's one reason for science. But the ultimate reason is like the explanation of what the hell is happening.
And I felt like yoga and these mental sciences are on the same path. This is, then try to answer the question. And later in life, psychedelics, to me, it's the same exact thing, trying to figure out the ultimate question of what the hell is going on. What is this perception? How am I alive? How am I perceiving? Not even how I'm alive, but just the perception itself. And why? And why are we here?
So that's the most important question. And so while I was having clashes with certain scientific ideas, I was also barreling down this path of yoga and mental sciences and trying to figure this out. And in the same time, I was playing music, which is, you know, I was very interested in music. And again, as somebody who is scientifically oriented,
I started to understand like, wait a minute, music, everything is a vibration. And as a musician, I'm playing with the source code. Basically, I am playing with harmonies, melodies and a correlation. And if you think about the whole entire universe is basically semantic patterns. Right.
And so I kind of understood that age that, OK, so as a musician, right, I am playing with the source code and also with music. I can affect you.
as a human like just to give a very short example you know i can give you a guitar riff and put a drum beat to it i'm going to make this drum beat a little bit shuffled meaning that the snare will not come mathematically what it's supposed to it's going to be a little bit late Badly audible, right? It's gonna give you a feeling that, oh man, we are cruising. Yeah, this feels good, right?
It's, you know, island time. Yay, right? Now, I take the same guitar riff. I'm gonna put a drum beat on it and I quantize it. So it's exactly on time. It's gonna be like, oh man, let's go to war. Bam, bam, it just feels like, let's go. Or I take the same snare and I push it a little bit. Again, it's not really audible. You can only feel it. And so now snare comes a little bit early.
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