Danny Jones Podcast
#290 - Hitler’s Favorite Way to Get High: Drugs in the Third Reich | Norman Ohler
18 Mar 2025
Get every episode ad-free & uncensored on Patreon: https://patreon.com/dannyjones Norman Ohler is an author and screenwriter whose non-fiction books include "Blitzed: Drugs in Nazi Germany," and "Tripped: Nazi Germany, The CIA and the Dawn of the Psychedelic Age." SPONSORS https://hims.com/danny - Start your FREE online visit today. https://www.ridge.com/dannyjones - Take advantage of Ridge’s once a year anniversary sale & get up to 40% off. https://truewerk.com/danny - Get 15% off your first order. https://whiterabbitenergy.com/?ref=DJP - Use code DJP for 20% off. GUEST LINKS https://www.instagram.com/normanohler https://www.normanohler.de FOLLOW DANNY JONES https://www.instagram.com/dannyjones https://twitter.com/jonesdanny OUTLINE 00:00 - Hitler's favorite drug 07:53 - Eating 85 year old Nazi meth pills 22:39 - Meth being used by Russian soldiers in Ukraine war 28:06 - Researching Nazi archives 40:09 - Scientific studies on Hitler's poop 47:12 - The Nazi 'stimulant decree' 57:45 - Nazi History in German schools 01:07:53 - LSD came from the Nazis 01:25:16 - Carl Ruck and ancient drugs 01:36:17 - Ergot 01:42:21 - JFK doing LSD 01:48:47 - Patreon questions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Do you listen to punk rock? I listen to the Sex Pistols. Yeah. When I saw you, My initial reaction was like, this is kind of a grungy German punk rock dude. Literary punk rock kind of dude.
If you say grunge, I saw actually one of the last concerts of Nirvana in New York. And then I was in the grocery store, like an organic store, and they announced that Kurt Cobain had shot himself. And that day I received a music tape from Berlin with electronic music and I kind of concluded all this punk rock grunge stuff that's dead and the new music is electronic music.
So that's actually why I moved back from New York where I was living in 95 to Berlin. Really? Yeah. And then you started listening to dubstep in Europe. I don't know, I just went to clubs in Berlin which were playing techno music, which was new at the time. Yeah, it exploded right around then. They call it house music though, right?
Well, no, there's different kinds of electronic music. House is one, techno is another. Then drum and bass came, so it was a big kind of flourishing culture. Which at one point stagnated. I think it's just stagnated, but I think it's still fascinating. But at the time it was like new. So I don't know where we're trying to go, but this is. We're not trying. We're not trying. We're just going.
I'm happy. Good. Me too. Your shirt is amazing. That's the meth that the Nazis were taking on your shirt, right? The Pervitin? yeah i mean i like the branding um the design also the name is very good it's a good brand name for methamphetamine pavitin because it's the word perverse perverse kind of perverse in it yeah which it is a perverse uh you know uh toxin i would say methamphetamine yeah
the saying that the famous saying that everything goes back to the nazis couldn't be more true even the drugs go back to the nazis
Well, I mean, somehow it's not surprising because they were really interested in performance enhancement. The Nazi movement was a very modern movement. They were applying the news technology, the news forms of propaganda, the news medicines. They were on the cutting edge of everything. That's correct. but they didn't have empathy and they didn't have the right morals.
So that can always be a problem. A very efficient system can also go off the rails. You need some kind of, I guess you would call it morals. It's a term that Nietzsche hated, but what do you do without morals? And you just become kind of a soulless machine that can go anywhere and in a big way too, you know?
Yeah. So... You've written two books on the history of drug use in the Third Reich, right? You've written the first one, which was Blitzed, which was all about the amphetamines and the uppers and all the kind of shit that Hitler's doctor was giving him.
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