Malice

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What happened on June 28th, 2014, regarding Jake Embert?

Kate Snow 0:00
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Kate Snow 0:42
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Craig Melvin 0:48
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Lester Holt 1:12
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Blaine Alexander 1:18
Tonight on Dateline. He says, I'm so sorry, but your dad has passed. The coroner is telling me. This is a suicide. This is a suicide.
Jake Embert's Wife (Susan Embert) 1:28
There's no freaking way. My husband just shot himself. I ran down the hallway. I thought I was going to lose my mind.
Will Embert 1:38
She was like, don't go back in the bedroom.
Blaine Alexander 1:40
This was your dad's wife?
Will Embert 1:42
Yeah.
Blaine Alexander 1:44
You didn't think his body needed another look? Any more testing, any more anything?
Will Embert 1:48
No, based on the information that I had at that time.
Blaine Alexander 1:50
Was that a mistake? Zero investigation, zero autopsy, open and shut. We have pictures of what exactly happened in that bedroom. It was painfully obvious the body had been moved.
Craig Melvin 2:01
You didn't have to be an expert to see that this crime scene was staged.
Blaine Alexander 2:05
You have to admit that it does look suspicious.
Jake Embert's Wife (Susan Embert) 2:08
I don't know what it looks like to other people. I know he loved me, and I loved him. Fire shot through my entire body.
Blaine Alexander 2:15
My dad did not take his own life. How does your family handle this? We get to work. It was ruled a suicide, but who really pulled the trigger?
Lester Holt 2:25
A family fights to uncover the truth. I'm Lester Holt, and this is Dateline.
Blaine Alexander 2:39
Here's Blaine Alexander with Malice. Time. Once it's gone, it's the one thing you can never get back. Time with loved ones. Time spent waiting for answers. The clock on this story for this family began on a Saturday morning. I want to talk about June 28th, 2014. Mm-hmm. Okay.
Jake Embert's Wife (Susan Embert) 3:16
All Benny, Georgia.
Blaine Alexander 3:21
A woman on the line with 911. She was frantic.
Blaine Alexander 3:31
Her name was Susan Embert. She was calling about her husband, Jake.
Jake Embert's Wife (Susan Embert) 3:37
I thought maybe he was cleaning his guns or something because he's always messing with them, you know?
Blaine Alexander 3:49
So I didn't know what happened. When you heard the noise, did you immediately know it was a gunshot? I knew it was a gunshot, but I didn't know if it came from back there or where. I just heard it was loud.
Jake Embert's Wife (Susan Embert) 3:59
No! She was still on the phone when a truck pulled up to the house.
Blaine Alexander 4:15
It was Will Embert, Jake's 17-year-old son from a previous marriage. He had been there earlier that morning and was coming back to spend the day with his dad.
Will Embert 4:28
Turn my truck off. and I can hear yelling. Susan comes out, like just comes barreling out the house real fast. She's on the phone, she's yelling. Could you hear what she was saying? It was discombobulated. And I'm like, what's going on? And she was like, don't go back in the bedroom.
Blaine Alexander 4:44
You were trying to keep him away from the house.

How did the initial investigation conclude Jake's death?

Blaine Alexander 4:46
To protect him.
Jake Embert's Wife (Susan Embert) 4:47
You know, from not seeing that sight. Don't go back there, they said. Don't go back there. Don't touch nothing. The ambulance is on the way.
Will Embert 4:55
I was like, why? She wouldn't tell me why. And eventually, she told me that my dad shot himself.
Blaine Alexander 5:03
Oh, God. Mm-hmm.
Will Embert 5:05
What did you do? I fell on the ground. I think I blacked out. I was very upset. I was crying.
Jake Embert's Wife (Susan Embert) 5:14
I remember I looked up.
Will Embert 5:24
Well, I remember Susan saying that the police are here.

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