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Sean Combs: "Jane" takes the stand.

Fri, 6 Jun 2025

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The woman called Victim-2 in the government's third superseding indictment -- she's using a pseudonym to testify -- was dating him until his arrest last fall. She alleges he coerced her into a version of the sexual performances Cassie Ventura has testified about. She testified that Combs was paying her rent, and when she told him she didn't want to perform sexually anymore, he told her he'd stop the payments.If you want to read NBC's coverage of the trial, check out our newsletter, “Diddy On Trial”: NBCNews.com/Diddy

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Chapter 1: What is the purpose of this podcast episode?

0.489 - 21.209 Andrea Canning

This is On Trial, a special series from Dateline True Crime Weekly, bringing you daily coverage from the Sean Combs racketeering trial. He has pleaded not guilty to all the charges against him. I'm Andrea Canning, and it's Thursday, June 5th. Just a heads up, in this episode, we're going to be talking about some graphic details and harrowing subject matter.

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Chapter 2: Who is Jane and why is she a key witness?

22.15 - 39.223 Andrea Canning

Today, the prosecution's last key witness began her testimony. The judge has allowed her to testify under a pseudonym to avoid harassment. She is being called Jane in the courtroom. And the judge has asked the press to be very careful about revealing her identity. So we are not going to describe her.

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Chapter 3: What allegations are made against Sean Combs?

39.864 - 64.146 Andrea Canning

What we can tell you is that the government's third superseding indictment against Sean Combs lists her as victim number two. The prosecution alleges that Combs recruited her and used force, fraud and coercion to get her to engage in commercial sex acts. They're alleging that Combs replaced Cassie Ventura in freak-offs with Jane. And some of those happened as recently as last year.

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64.946 - 80.358 Andrea Canning

NBC News correspondent Chloe Malas has been in the courthouse this afternoon, and she's stepped out to bring us the latest. Hey, Chloe. Hey, Andrea. It's been an intense day in downtown Manhattan. Even before Jane took the stand, there was some drama with Sean Combs himself. Tell us about it.

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80.698 - 105.648 Chloe Malas

So the judge told Diddy, if you continue to look at the jury and make faces... any sort of expression at all. I'm going to kick you out of the courtroom and you're not going to be able to be here. And Diddy just said, yes, judge, I understand. So during testimony of Brianna Bongolin, I guess Diddy was nodding and really shaking his head and making eye contact with the jury.

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105.888 - 109.851 Andrea Canning

Breonna, who claims that Combs dangled her over a balcony.

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110.131 - 122.561 Chloe Malas

Yes, and her testimony really had a lot of holes today on cross-examination, Andrea. It's what a ton of journalists were buzzing about outside of the courthouse, that it was a big day for the defense.

123.081 - 130.026 Andrea Canning

Okay. Is this the first time, Chloe, that Combs has been scolded for doing something like this by the judge?

Chapter 4: What happened during Jane's testimony?

130.467 - 147.22 Chloe Malas

I've been in the courtroom most days, and I have never seen anything like this happen. But I do want to give you the perspective of somebody that's literally had their eyes glued to him the entire time, and that's court artist Jane Rosenberg. She's one of the individuals that draws all of those court sketches that you see.

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147.6 - 166.54 Chloe Malas

She's had her eyes and binoculars on him for over a month, and she told NBC News that... that Diddy has been making facial expressions both affirmatively and negatively, depending on the testimony. Now, I've seen that. I mean, I've seen him look directly at the jury. I've seen him nod his head. I'm not sure exactly what happened that escalated things so much.

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166.741 - 185.049 Andrea Canning

Combs' defense attorney told the judge he would make sure that that did not happen again. So, Chloe, after lunch, Jane, victim number two, according to the prosecution, finally took the stand. What did you learn about her? And of course, we already told you off the top, we have to be careful about not revealing too much about this woman.

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185.909 - 208.747 Chloe Malas

Right. So I'm not going to describe what she looks like. I know who she is. I know her backstory. But that's because I've been covering all of this for a couple of years now. She dated Diddy from 2021 up until his arrest in 2024. And she seemed really nervous, and she actually started to cry at some points.

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209.107 - 212.31 Andrea Canning

You learned that they apparently had goofy nicknames for each other?

235.558 - 235.738 Chloe Malas

Yeah.

235.938 - 240.539 Chloe Malas

It was like this sort of light, funny moment for a split second.

240.82 - 247.422 Andrea Canning

Yeah. Who doesn't know Bert and Ernie? And so she said that on the stand that their first date in Miami lasted five days.

247.962 - 271.886 Chloe Malas

So according to Jane's testimony, they continued to text each other and FaceTime each other and talk on the phone. in the weeks after she first met him and that her friend actually was seeing other people during the same time and got engaged and moved overseas quite quickly. And that's when Jane felt like it was safe to start dating dating Diddy.

Chapter 5: What relationship did Jane have with Sean Combs?

272.026 - 292.027 Chloe Malas

So she tells Diddy that she's going to be in Miami for an event. He pays for her hotel and she ends up meeting up with him and they have sex on the first night and they end up having sex for the next five days. And it's interspersed with dinners, beach walks. And she says that she's really falling head over heels for him.

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292.409 - 296.732 Andrea Canning

The prosecutor asked Jane to describe the next three months of their relationship.

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296.932 - 323.463 Chloe Malas

She said that they did a lot of drugs. They went on a trip shortly after that five-day first date. They went to Turks and Caicos. Then they went to the Bahamas. And she testified that she did everything from ecstasy to Molly with Diddy. And that she did so much ecstasy that at one point she lost her sense of self on the beach. But she said that she continued to take ecstasy every 12 hours.

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324.656 - 334.804 Andrea Canning

Wow. And at times, I mean, this testimony reads like a tawdry sex novel. She's talking about their sexual encounters and the details involved with that.

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335.184 - 356.461 Chloe Malas

So on one hand, Jane is testifying that she's falling in love with him, but they're having a lot of sex, watching a lot of pornography, and that Diddy wants her in very scandalous lingerie in what she called stripper heels, and that while they were watching pornography, over the next couple of months... he would start to get more bold with her.

356.581 - 367.525 Chloe Malas

And she testified that he started to say, can you imagine yourself with one of these men? You know, would you ever want to have sex with another man? I'd love to watch you with another man.

367.906 - 369.546 Andrea Canning

Sounds like the beginning of a freak off.

370.447 - 370.967 Chloe Malas

Exactly.

371.687 - 378.07 Andrea Canning

Tell us about, you know, where that went, him introducing this idea of more people.

Chapter 6: What details did Jane share about their relationship?

407.883 - 423.412 Chloe Malas

And she said that she just said, OK, because this was a man that she loved. She could tell he was getting turned on and she wanted to make him happy. And Jane testified that she went into the bathroom when she came out. Diddy was wearing a robe. and intensely looking at his cell phone.

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424.352 - 434.635 Chloe Malas

And then within the next few hours, they went to a hotel in Miami and an escort showed up by the name of Don from a company called Cowboys for Angels.

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434.955 - 443.377 Andrea Canning

Jane testified that the next day she felt excited, you know, that it was something she'd never done before. But she also testified that she thought this was a one-time thing.

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444.252 - 462.46 Chloe Malas

Right. So also, I just want to point out that during her testimony, she said she had already been up for about 24 hours at this point. She agreed to have sex with somebody else. And she testified that she was on drugs. She was high. And they went to this hotel.

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463.2 - 482.439 Chloe Malas

And when she and Diddy got to that hotel, she testified that she saw assistants there, but she couldn't remember their names, setting up the baby oil... making sure that there were beverages in the room. She didn't talk about lighting or cameras or drugs. But again, this is that part of the RICO conspiracy charge

482.881 - 506.47 Chloe Malas

Because the prosecutors want you to believe that Diddy was telling his minions, right, the people that worked for him, his employees, to go and set up these hotel rooms for freak offs. You know, that they were aware of the escorts, you know, that they were a part of this illegal activity and they have to get him on multiple predicate crimes to prove Rigo conspiracy, which we've talked about a lot.

506.73 - 511.491 Andrea Canning

And Jane testified that she tried to tell Combs she didn't want to do any more free coughs.

Chapter 7: How did Sean Combs influence Jane's actions?

511.672 - 529.497 Chloe Malas

Yes. So she testified that it was like opening Pandora's box, that that set the tone for the rest of the relationship. And it was a door that she could never shut, but she wanted to. 90% of her relationship over the next few years centered around Pandora.

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529.737 - 538.602 Chloe Malas

these encounters with escorts and that she told him repeatedly, both verbally and in writing, whatever that means, that she didn't want to do it.

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538.962 - 539.963 Andrea Canning

She says he threatened her.

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540.403 - 561.258 Chloe Malas

Yes. So she testified that Diddy was paying for her rent and that when she told him, you know, do we have to keep doing this? I don't really want to do this anymore. That he said to her, OK, well, how many more months of rent do you need? Because I'm not going to pay for somebody's rent that isn't my girlfriend and isn't doing these things.

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Chapter 8: What emotional moments occurred during Jane's testimony?

561.758 - 581.613 Chloe Malas

And then Maureen Comey, the prosecutor, said, well, were you trying to break up with Diddy? And she said no, that she just wanted to have sex with just Diddy. She didn't want to have sex with these escorts. But he was holding Diddy. the rent over her head, which goes to sex trafficking. You're talking about force, fraud, coercion.

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582.074 - 588.378 Chloe Malas

He's coercing her into these freak offs because he's holding the rent over her.

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588.558 - 599.206 Andrea Canning

Yeah, this is the prosecution's argument. It seems like the key here is like, is it coercion or did she feel obligated? You know, is there a difference there? I mean, one's pretty serious here.

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600.985 - 621.907 Chloe Malas

I saw some different journalists turning around in the overflow and they were whispering to each other and they were mouthing the phrase, this is really muddy. So it is muddy. There's a lot of gray in this entire case. But what sort of text messages, what sort of emails does she have to back up? that she didn't want to participate.

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622.628 - 649.536 Chloe Malas

I do find it interesting that she was still with him up until his arrest. So it's a big question for me as somebody who's been covering this for so many years now, what made her want to be a witness for the prosecution? What changed? So we expect her to take the stand tomorrow and for several days next week. And we've been told that there are a lot of explicit text messages, photos, and videos.

650.416 - 672.723 Andrea Canning

And the defense clearly will get their shot at cross-examining her, and I'm sure they are eager to do that, Chloe. When we come back on our weekly show, Dateline True Crime Weekly, the episode that came out this morning, we played my interview with one of the courtroom sketch artists from Combs' trial. We're going to play you a bit more from that interview, how she sketches anonymous witnesses.

683.069 - 690.375 Chris

Welcome back, everybody. This is Christine Cornell. People are fascinating. The stories are fascinating. It's always a challenge.

691.736 - 711.591 Andrea Canning

And when you're lucky, you make art. And this is a piece of our interview, a little more about her experience drawing Sean Combs' federal trial over the past month. When you're drawing them, are you just trying to get it right, like as close as you can? Or are you trying to capture more of a feeling? Can you describe that?

711.671 - 738.267 Chris

It's both things. You want to have an accurate drawing that really resembles them, and you want to capture a little bit of the dynamic of the courtroom. You can't help but feel that there was a tension between P. Diddy and, you know, Cassie. Yeah. I could see it on her, you know, because, you know, she held her own, but she wept a little. Mm-hmm. And Diddy, of course, is fighting for his life.

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