Talking Dateline: The Mushroom Mystery

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Josh Mankiewicz 1:11
Hi, everybody. I'm Josh Mankiewicz. We're talking Dateline. Today... With Blaine Alexander. Hello. Hello. So we're here to talk about Blaine's episode, The Mushroom Mystery. Now that's a story about a woman named Katrina Fouts who plotted to poison her husband David using poisonous mushrooms. That, for a variety of reasons, did not work. So Katrina's friend Terry strangled David. In the end, Terry confessed to killing David, and Katrina was found not guilty of murder, but she was convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. Now, if you haven't seen this episode, you can stream it on Peacock or watch it on your DVR, or you can listen to it on the Dateline podcast feed and then come right back here for this discussion.
Josh Mankiewicz 2:00
And then later, we're going to have an extra clip from Blaine's interview with the killer Terry's ex-wife. But first, let's talk Dateline.
Blayne Alexander 2:10
Let's talk Dateline.
Josh Mankiewicz 2:11
I was thinking about where to start. And because it's me, I'm going to start at the more trivial. There's an old joke that the other vegetables don't want to hang out with the mushroom, and they're excluding him. And he goes, why? I'm a fun guy. Get it? Right?
Kate Snow 2:29
Okay.
Okay.
Josh Mankiewicz 2:30
That apparently, according to your story, according to your story, it's not my joke. According to your story, that's not true. It's fungi. I mean, she's a scientist.
Blayne Alexander 2:41
Presumably she knows. That was one of the many things that I learned through the course of doing this story, by the way. I always thought it was fungi, but I've not dedicated years of my life to studying mushrooms. And so, yes, hearing it pronounced that way, I said, you know what? That's not how I've said it, but I trust you. I trust you.
Josh Mankiewicz 2:59
Yeah, I mean, that wrecks that joke, but okay.
Blayne Alexander 3:02
Keep telling it because most people don't know if that's the actual pronunciation, so you're fine.
Josh Mankiewicz 3:07
It's a crowd pleaser. Yeah, no, they can't get enough of it. This feels actually, just to delve a little deeper into this, this feels a little different from the GIF versus JIF debate. Because that feels like it's got a certain number of people on both sides. But when the woman who studies mushrooms for a living says fungi, then I'm inclined to stop telling that joke. So when I first heard about this story about somebody getting poisoned with mushrooms, my mind immediately went to that poisoning story in Australia from a couple of years ago in which a woman fed death cap mushrooms, actual death cap mushrooms, to members of her family, estranged members of her family because they were going through a divorce, and managed to kill several people and ended up getting locked up for it.
Josh Mankiewicz 4:02
but I immediately thought, oh, this was inspired by that, but not true. Your story happened before that Australia poisoning story, so maybe they got the idea from this.
Blayne Alexander 4:13
You know what? It's possible. But one thing that we learned in the course of this is that Katrina, the woman who has been convicted of this, she really enjoys true crime shows. I mean, that's something that she does. She watches, we know the Dateline, something she watches.

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