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Texas realtor murder case. Arson and fratricide trial in New Jersey. Plus, Martha Moxley podcast.

22 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What happened to Suzanne Simpson in Texas?

3.625 - 21.954 Andrea Canning

This is Olympic figure skating medalist Adam Rippon. Are you wondering who you should root for at the 2026 Winter Olympics? Well, I'm hosting my new favorite Olympian where I will introduce you to Team USA's brightest stars and the causes they are passionate about. You're going to have great days. You're going to have rock bottom days. I think that that's part of life.

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21.974 - 34.472 Andrea Canning

Being a mom, being an Olympian. Get ready for the 2026 Winter Olympics by checking out my new favorite Olympian wherever you listen to your podcasts. Good morning. It's the start of another workday for the Dateline team.

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Busy week at Dateline. So let's go ahead and jump in.

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38.218 - 43.748 Andrea Canning

Our producers are swapping tips and story ideas. You see first responders trying to revive her.

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43.848 - 46.853 Kevin Shea

It was quite a scene in the court. Was there a cause of death?

48.676 - 68.253 Andrea Canning

Welcome to Dateline True Crime Weekly. I'm Andrea Canning. It's January 22nd, and here's what's on our docket. In central New Jersey, it's week two in the trial of a businessman accused of murdering four of his relatives, including his own brother. The prosecutor played audio of the brothers arguing just hours before the murders.

69.895 - 85.337 Andrea Canning

In Dateline Roundup, the prosecution rests in the murder trial of former IRS agent Brendan Banfield. And new details in the arrest of Luigi Mangione will play you the 911 call.

86.482 - 90.566 Keith Canero

Yes, he's still in the back of our lobby by the bathroom.

91.087 - 107.563 Andrea Canning

Plus, the reporting team behind an all-new podcast series on the murder of Connecticut teenager Martha Moxley. They tell us about their exclusive interviews with Michael Skakel, the Kennedy cousin whose conviction for the murder was tossed out after he spent 11 years in prison.

Chapter 2: What are the latest updates in the Paul Caneiro trial in New Jersey?

244.268 - 252.575 Andrea Canning

This is when the neighbor told police he saw the couple fighting. What were Brad and Suzanne doing that night? And what does the neighbor say that he saw?

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252.615 - 261.563 Jordan Elder

So before any of this happened, we know that Brad and Suzanne were at this very exclusive club in Alamo Heights called the Argyle Club.

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261.703 - 277.898 Andrea Canning

And they were seen arguing inside that club. And then they left. After they got home, that's when the neighbor reported not only hearing Suzanne yelling, but watching Brad put his hands on her. She was kind of resisting him.

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277.878 - 291.856 Jordan Elder

and he apparently saw Suzanne walk toward the woods. He was hearing yelling. He reported that at some point that night, he knew that Brad's truck left and then came back, but he didn't see Suzanne again.

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292.317 - 309.958 Andrea Canning

So, Jordan, over those first few weeks, investigators conducted extensive searches in that wooded area near the Simpsons' home. They also searched a local landfill but never found her body. What evidence do they say they have that a murder even took place? How do they know Suzanne didn't just up and leave?

310.479 - 336.378 Andrea Canning

In the indictment documents, it talks about this motorized saw that people use in construction. They found DNA on that motorized saw, and when they ran it, it ended up being Suzanne's. And they kind of used that to show the grand jury and to show the judge, we don't believe that she is alive because of this. The saw, was it from the home owned by Brad?

337.039 - 347.409 Andrea Canning

They haven't specified, but that's kind of the implication, is that it belonged to him. Also, investigators say Brad bought cleaning supplies in the days after the fight.

348.31 - 360.282 Jordan Elder

Cleaning supplies, concrete, surveillance video showed trash bags in the back of his car, and there was a large object under a tarp.

360.262 - 378.051 Andrea Canning

With some things over it, holding it in place. And from the way investigators talk about it, that is not typically in his truck. OK, so there were also some technical things. Suzanne hasn't used her phone or credit cards. Then there's the classic, you know, she's a mom before she would never leave her kids behind.

Chapter 3: What evidence is presented against Brad Simpson in Suzanne's case?

533.31 - 557.226 Andrea Canning

Especially in Bexar County, there's always a very stark contrast between the people who are in jail awaiting murder trial and other trials. The people who are waiting for murder trials are always dressed in red. So he came in, he was in his red jumpsuit and was shackled at the wrists and at the ankles. You don't typically see a lot of emotion for him. And it was the same in court this week.

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557.466 - 576.228 Andrea Canning

The other thing that has stayed really consistent is the people there to support Suzanne. It was two full rows and they all wear pink and purple bandanas around their neck or pink and purple clothes to signify that they're with her because those were her favorite colors. His trial, Brad's, was scheduled for February, but that changed during the hearing.

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576.729 - 577.911 Jordan Elder

They have pushed it back.

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578.211 - 599.389 Andrea Canning

Essentially, the state said that they keep getting new waves of evidence that they need to go through. So they requested a continuance. The defense wasn't majorly excited about that. I think they really want to get this to trial, but... The judge ended up granting it. All right. We will await a trial date. Jordan, thank you so much for this update.

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599.65 - 612.175 Andrea Canning

We'll come back to you as the trial gets underway. Thank you so much for having me. Coming up, a New Jersey man on trial for allegedly killing four family members. Prosecutors describe a brother's rift.

617.791 - 646.38 Michael Skakel

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647.491 - 665.652 Willie Geist

Hey, guys, Willie Geist here reminding you to check out the Sunday Sit Down podcast. On this week's episode, I get together with global music superstar Bad Bunny to talk about his path from Puerto Rico to the top of the music world. You can get our conversation now for free wherever you download your podcasts.

667.235 - 692.179 Keith Morrison

Where was she? The disappearance of Carrie Farmer was quite unlike any other, because Carrie hadn't exactly vanished, but retreated beyond the shadows to release rage in torrents of text messages. And it just went on and on and on. Beyond diabolical, beyond the macabre, to murder, a story straight out of left field. You're on edge as to what's going to happen next.

692.243 - 697.244 Keith Morrison

I'm Keith Morrison, and this is Something About Carrie, an all-new podcast from Dateline.

Chapter 4: What role did James Cotter play in Suzanne Simpson's disappearance?

2001.71 - 2018.435 Andrea Canning

Our senior producer is Liz Brown-Koroloff. Production and fact-checking help by Audrey Abrahams. Veronica Mazzica is our digital producer. Rick Kwan is our sound designer. Original music by Jesse McGinty. Paul Ryan is executive producer. And Liz Cole is senior executive producer of Dateline.

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2018.915 - 2020.418 Keith Canero

All right. Action-packed meeting.

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2027.288 - 2031.514 Kevin Shea

Friday night on an all-new Dateline. A deadly plan.

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2031.545 - 2033.669 Keith Canero

Something's got to happen when I'm at work.

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2034.13 - 2037.737 Kevin Shea

She wanted me to kill her husband. A deadly past.

2038.198 - 2040.222 Andrea Canning

We see there's a house on fire.

2040.402 - 2051.865 Kevin Shea

You're the common thread. There's more to the story. I said I'd never tell another living soul, but I'm going to tell you. An all-new Dateline, Friday night at 9, 8 central. Only on NBC.

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