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Dateline NBC

The Ruse

09 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What triggered the investigation into Tom Perez Sr.'s disappearance?

0.031 - 12.015 Lester Holt

Tonight on Dateline. They had gone into the house. There was an obvious smell of bleach. We discovered a lot of blood evidence. Maybe there was some foul play involved here.

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13.801 - 18.928 Detective

We believed that something violent happened in the house and that Mr. Perez was the one that did it to his father.

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19.269 - 25.938 Carl Peraza

Were you convinced that your friend had killed his dad? Yes. An officer indicated we have overwhelming evidence.

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25.958 - 27.56 Unknown

How would blood get in those spots?

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Chapter 2: What evidence was found that suggested foul play?

27.74 - 43.301 Unknown

I don't know. You think he's lying to you? Correct. You told him his dad was dead? Correct. You told him you had the body? Yes, correct. Thomas, that's not going to help anything. It was a really difficult thing to watch. We see you ripping at your clothes, ripping at your hair.

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Chapter 3: How did the police's perception of Tom Jr. change during the investigation?

43.642 - 75.833 Unknown

They think I murdered my father. This can't be real. This can't be right. This was the moment that you thought maybe he was going to crack. We just looked at each other, shocked. Couldn't believe it. Still can't. A father missing, a son under suspicion, and an ending that will make your jaw drop. I'm Lester Holt, and this is Dateline. Tonight, The Ruse.

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Chapter 4: What unusual behavior did Tom Jr. exhibit during police questioning?

81.241 - 83.404 Joanna Pina

Hello, this is CSOP with Fontana Police.

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84.426 - 101.672 Unknown

Yes. It began in August 2018, Fontana, California. Sometimes he takes a dog for a walk, but... The man on the phone, Tom Perez Jr., was describing how his father, Tom Perez Sr., went out for a walk and didn't come back.

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102.142 - 112.725 Tom Perez Jr.

What happened was he went to the mailbox last night, normal, no big deal. He went there with the dog and the dog came back and he wasn't around.

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113.532 - 121.722 Unknown

Tom Jr. and his dad lived together here on this quiet street. Both were in real estate, though Tom Sr. was retired.

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Chapter 5: What shocking evidence led to the police suspecting Tom Jr. of murder?

122.163 - 128.15 Unknown

Carl Peraza has known both men for more than 20 years. How would you describe the younger Tom?

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128.811 - 144.416 Carl Peraza

He's unique. He's extremely intelligent, very self-disciplined. Papa Tom, he's very quiet. He's very opposite from his son. I've known him for a long time. We would go to their house and, you know, have a little party, watch sports.

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145.858 - 153.687 Unknown

And now Tom was asking police if anyone had reported seeing his dad. He told the officer he had wandered off before.

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Chapter 6: How did Tom Jr.'s confession evolve during the interrogation?

153.707 - 162.818 Joanna Pina

You didn't hear any weird noises or anything like that? No, no type of yelling, no type of struggle.

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163.459 - 175.171 Unknown

After speaking with Tom, community service officer Joanna Pina paid him a visit. She took immediate note of his appearance. His pants are unbuckled.

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176.553 - 190.812 Joanna Pina

And he's just kind of like, not concerned, just standing here like, oh, hey. Tom told Pina he'd been awake all night, packing to move. I noticed there was a bunch of boxes, a lot of, it was the house was in disarray. I'm like, what are you doing?

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191.293 - 194.678 Unknown

And then as you get deeper inside, does this thing become more curious to you?

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Chapter 7: What was the bombshell revelation that changed the course of the investigation?

194.918 - 198.123 Joanna Pina

Yes. And you left his wallet and his phone here and his keys?

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199.915 - 203.999 Lester Holt

Yeah, because he just went to the mailbox.

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204.019 - 207.843 Unknown

The mailbox wasn't far, just a two-minute walk around the corner.

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208.284 - 210.486 Joanna Pina

Did you go check to see if he actually picked up the mail?

211.587 - 213.129 Unknown

Yeah, go for it.

214.751 - 221.418 Joanna Pina

We went to the mail. And this is the mailbox right here. The mailbox up here.

Chapter 8: What are the implications of police using deception in interrogations?

221.438 - 225.742 Joanna Pina

The mail's here. The mail that from the day before was still there.

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226.363 - 231.754 Unknown

Why he didn't get the mail, I don't know. Was he volunteering information or were you having to drag it out of him?

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231.774 - 235.861 Joanna Pina

I was asking him, and he wasn't very clear on his answers.

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235.881 - 239.968 Tom Perez Jr.

It was very vague.

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241.571 - 252.599 Unknown

Peanut isn't a detective, but her gut told her this case needed one. More officers and detectives arrived. Can I kind of tell you where we're at?

252.64 - 259.807 Detective

Obviously we want to find your dad. So what I would like to do is I'd like for you to go back to the station with me so I can use all my resources and all that good stuff.

260.728 - 261.068 Detective Janis or Kyle Guthrie

Yeah.

261.088 - 267.775 Unknown

Let's go. Tom left with police as Sergeant Brian McClain took charge of a now growing investigation.

268.536 - 293.642 Lester Holt

I noticed almost immediately when I started to go upstairs, there was an obvious smell of bleach. What was really telling to me was the shower curtain was missing. We discovered a lot of blood evidence. Blood evidence that you could see with the naked eye and blood evidence that you could see using a mixture of spray that can show trace evidence of blood that had been cleaned up.

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