Defensive Security Podcast Episode 349

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Defensive Security Podcast - Malware, Hacking, Cyber Security & Infosec 1h 5m 2 speakers 8 chapters transcribed 1 month ago
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Jerry Bell 0:31
Welcome to the open source dependency slash whatever disaster podcast. Actually, let me try that again. Welcome to episode three hundred forty nine of the Defensive Security Podcast. My name is Jerry Bell and joining me today, as always, is Mr Andrew Kellett. Good afternoon, sir. How are you? I'm doing awesome. I hear
Andrew Kalat 0:55
You might have some news. I do indeed, and I'll I'll try to keep this brief, but I have left my previous employer Sales Loft as of this past Friday. And I am on the market looking for a new gig. So Open to consulting, open to Fractional part time work, open to full time work. Uh, if you know, if you find my particular brand of Security skills and snarkiness of interest, uh, reach out. Maybe we can work together.
Jerry Bell 1:26
So yeah, you you've been in the industry for a very long time and I've done all the things, so
Andrew Kalat 1:34
Too long, some might say.
Jerry Bell 1:35
But too long.
Andrew Kalat 1:37
But I'm also happy to take a little bit of a break, right? I Uh you know, the last I've been at I was at sales off for five years, including uh what some deemed the largest says breach of twenty twenty five And uh it's been an exhausting year and I'm happy to Take a little bit of a break, but if the right opportunity, the right interesting thing pops up, uh you know, I'm just trying to find something that That excites me again. That that gets the the juices flowing as they say. And uh but if that takes time, I'm okay with that too. Cool, cool.
Jerry Bell 2:07
I uh I I really enjoyed time off. So I I uh I highly recommend it. That's it's my advice.
Andrew Kalat 2:20
Unfortunately I still probably have to be careful about what I say about sales loft and the drift breach because lawyers are gonna lawyer. But I could probably be a little bit more open about other things.
Jerry Bell 2:32
Yeah, it's uh it's the way the way of the world. So no worries. But um anyway, congratulations. Seriously. Uh congratulations on your your your mini retirement. I know it's not actually retirement.
Andrew Kalat 2:49
Well, if it turns into that, I might have to come live on your couch, so let's hope not.
Jerry Bell 2:53
It's true. All right. So uh next up I want to say thank you to our Patreon sponsors. Thank you very, very much. And I will remind everybody that if you do want to have the the high honor, the great privilege of listening to our shows a week ahead of everybody else. If you you want to get like the inside scoop, you want to know what's happening in the world before everybody else, this is how you do it. Right. You want to know what the latest your mom jokes are? Like right here, right now, this is how you do it. Doesn't cost much. And and it you know, it it it it helps make the world a better place. Let's let's just be honest.
Andrew Kalat 3:35
We like to we like to think so. Others might disagree.
Jerry Bell 3:39
That's okay. I guess it depends. They're entitled
Andrew Kalat 3:40
to their
Jerry Bell 3:41
opinions.
Andrew Kalat 3:42
It depends on your opinion on enhanced interrogation techniques at CIA black sites, because that is one of our primary use cases, is they force suspects and and whatnot to listen to our show until they break.
Jerry Bell 3:55
Does seem like we should be the recipient of some grant from the like the like DISA or CIA. But but no. No, they just uh they just use our use our stuff like it's open source.
Andrew Kalat 4:08
That's almost like a hint, a foreshadowing of a story we're gonna talk about.
Jerry Bell 4:13
That's right. That's right. I'm I I pub published a video about how uh open source is you know where people can anybody can just come along and and uh drop their own bugs in into code. And I still make myself laugh over that. So I I I found it more funny than anybody else. But that's the way it's a good thing. If you can
Andrew Kalat 4:36
make yourself laugh, that's okay. But in all honesty, uh thank you as well from me. Honestly, to our Patreon donors. You guys are amazing. It always is humbling and crazy to me that some of you just give us money to do our little show and we really do appreciate that. Thank you.
Jerry Bell 4:53
Yeah, thank you. All right. And also a reminder that well, at least for some of us, uh the thoughts and opinions we express on the show are ours and not those of our employers. You know, so someday maybe maybe neither of us will have employers to to uh to have to worry about.

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