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29 Seasons of Paranormal: Ghosts, Curses, and Legends | Jay Wasley DSH #1322
Sun, 13 Apr 2025
👻 Get ready for spine-tingling tales and jaw-dropping discoveries on "29 Seasons of Paranormal: Ghosts, Curses, and Legends 👀." Sean Kelly sits down with Jay, a seasoned investigator, to uncover the wildest haunted locations, legendary curses, and unexplained phenomena captured over 15+ years in the paranormal world. From séances at the Winchester Mystery House to chilling evidence at the Poltergeist House, this episode is packed with stories that will blow your mind. 🎥 Jay shares the secrets behind using cutting-edge cameras to capture spirits, the energy trapped in haunted objects, and even the eerie science linking emotions to paranormal activity. Plus, hear about ghostly encounters with celebrities like Jonathan Davis of Korn, Matt Rife, and Post Malone—not to mention cursed artifacts and a terrifying investigation into a house so haunted it left everyone shaken. 😱 🔥 Don’t miss this deep dive into the mysteries of the supernatural. Watch now and subscribe for more insider secrets. 📺 Join the conversation in the comments—what’s your take on ghosts, curses, and legends? Let’s talk! 🚀 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:27 - New Season of Ghost Adventures 04:58 - Sponsored by Northwest Registered Agent 06:14 - Jay's Band Hundredth Hand 06:55 - Jay's Start on Ghost Adventures 09:04 - Conversations with Spirits 11:19 - Paranormal Caught on Camera: House Calls 12:24 - Haunted House Dilemma 13:03 - Zak’s Haunted Museum 15:16 - Time Travel Theory 16:09 - Haunted Las Vegas 17:46 - Voodoo Dolls Explained 19:37 - New Season of Ghost Adventures (Duplicate Removed) 23:10 - Matt Rife as a Ghost Hunter 24:10 - Post Malone & Jonathan Davis (Korn) 26:20 - Catacombs of Paris Exploration 31:23 - Historical Misconceptions 32:34 - Ancient Civilization Discoveries 37:04 - Researching on the Spot 39:23 - The Demon House 42:38 - Episode Wrap-Up APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Jay Wasley https://www.instagram.com/jaywasleyfilm SPONSORS: NORTHWEST REGISTERED AGENT: https://www.northwestregisteredagent.com/socialhour LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ #ghosttheory #ghostsontrent #amyscrypt #scarystories #paranormalnightmare
Chapter 1: Who is Jay Wasley and what is his experience in paranormal investigations?
All right, guys. Got a fan favorite back in town. Jay. Yeah. Been busy, man.
It's good to be here. Yeah. New season coming out soon. Yeah. We're excited about it. It's been, I mean, we've been filming nonstop and it's been a little while since new episodes came out. So we're really excited for this new season. And I mean, I've been doing this 15 years now and it just gets crazier. Like there's been moments where I'm like, all right, what else could I see?
What else could I experience that's going to really change? And it happens. Like, we just have things happen this whole season. Like, pretty much every episode, there's at least one or two things that just still are blowing my mind.
Wow.
So I'm super excited for everyone to finally be able to see it.
Yeah, because I was going to ask you, like, does anything phase you at this point? You've seen a lot.
Yeah, I mean, there's times where it doesn't. Like, I feel like there is a numbness that comes with it, but ultimately, like, We're going for that holy grail of evidence at this point, and we feel like we get it. There's multiple episodes that we've called visual evidence that we cannot explain whatsoever.
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Chapter 2: What equipment and technology are used to capture paranormal activity?
We were doing a seance at the Winchester Mystery House this new season, and it's the 100th anniversary of when Houdini was last there doing a seance. So we tracked down the only known blood relative of Houdini brought him in to join us in the seance. And we were using Polaroid cameras to document evidence. And we got this thing that was just like, you just, you'll see it.
It's just flying around the table. And it's, it's, it's amazing. It's super cool. Yeah. And what's awesome about Polaroids too is, you know, for everyone that's a skeptic out there, we like using Polaroids because it's right then, you know, you can actually show it and we're filming the process. You see the picture come out, it develops. We can show you right on the spot.
You know, there's no time to like, do anything with it. It's literally right there. Physical piece of evidence. That's cool. Do certain cameras capture the spirits or whatever better? Yeah, we use a lot of different types of cameras. Uh, we try to shoot, you know, for like what we see here is like the visible light spectrum, but we know like there's other types of light that exist.
There's infrared light, there's UV light, things like that. So we'll use cameras that are, uh, basically designed to be able to see an ultraviolet light to be able to see an infrared light and kind of basically capture things that we can't see with our regular eyes. Yeah. The heat one, I noticed the spirits have a different heat, right? Yeah. We use a lot.
We use thermal cameras as well that pick up heat, excuse me, pick up heat signatures or even a cold signatures too. Like we've had human forms appear, but it's like mapped as cold. And then it kind of plays into the thing where people will get like the chills and they feel like that cold air is suddenly moving in kind of thing. So we've been able to document that as well, which is really cool.
Have you ever gotten the chills somewhere? Oh yeah, all the time.
yeah and like honestly like that's kind of where it starts honestly like a lot of people are like oh what's your favorite piece of equipment what kind of you know what should i buy i'm like learn it yourself trust your body trust your own feelings you know we're not psychics we're not mediums we're not anything like that but where i feel like we are in tune to things we've been doing it long enough we're like we know our bodies we know when we feel something we walk into a room we start feeling something we're like all right
let's pay attention to this room, to this spot. And then we start bringing out the different cameras, the different devices to then document it, you know, and to be kind of like, you know, just before this, we were talking about like to be able to like feel something and then prove it is that's, you know, it's a good feeling. Exactly. You know, you're not crazy. Yeah. Yeah.
It must be second nature for you at this point. Yeah, absolutely. Like, and even, you know, there's times throughout the day too, or like we're not filming and I try to just be like, all right, I'm not even, you Like I'll, you know, I'll be like, oh, there's something weird here. But I'm like, no, I'm not even playing into it. It's like I'll leave work at work.
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Chapter 3: How did Jay Wasley start on Ghost Adventures and what was his first on-camera experience?
We've had, I'm trying to remember, there was one we did in South, I think it was in Charleston, South Carolina, where this woman was hung and we were like asking her, like she had, I forget the phrase, but she had like a famous phrase she said right before she died.
Mm-hmm.
and we're like what did you say and then it comes through like the whole phrase we're like wow like that's not just a single word you know we've had conversations we've had voices come through with a few words and then minutes later the same voice is coming through and then again you know so like it shows that whatever this it's an intelligent spirit and it can communicate with us interesting yeah because the spirit boxes will pick up on words right but not like full-on conversation well it has
it has we've actually even picked up conversations between spirits no way yeah we've had things that say like you know i'm just kind of just as a reference maybe not exact but like they're like they're here they see us and then you hear another voice be like no they don't and like they're almost like they're communicating back and forth like you know it makes me wonder like do they look at us as we're ghosts you know how what's it like from their perspective you know what we think of a ghost is they're in their realm in their world or they look at us and be like there's
ghost yeah it's kind of a weird you know trippy thing to think about so are you a full believer now because I remember when you came on two years ago you were like you're still looking for a solid proof I mean I believe it I still approach things skeptically I still like to try to
have it documented, like solid evidence. But I believe it. I mean, I've experienced, it's been 15 years now doing this, and without a doubt, there's more to this reality than just this, what we see, what we experience. Um, and I know that from what I've seen, what I felt, I've been dragged backwards. I've seen things lift off the ground.
I've seen exorcisms, possessions, uh, rituals, all kinds of things. I've seen shadow figures. I've seen, you know, pretty much you name it. I've seen it at this point. So like what it all a hundred percent is, I don't know. And I still like, I'll never say like, I'm an expert that I know this, I'm just experienced.
in doing it and I have theories and like hands down there's more to this damn you guys still doing the house calls too we're not doing house calls right now we did do another season of that I think since last time we talked but I don't think it's aired yet okay but yeah we're not doing that right now but like that was fun and like learned a whole other aspect because a lot of regular show we go out there
We're investigating like the history of the stories where house calls kind of gave it more of a personal touch and kind of almost learning that like people around the country or around the world experience these things in their homes where 20 years ago they would be called crazy for been talking about this.
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Chapter 4: Can spirits communicate through clear conversations and what evidence supports this?
There's a whole thing called the stone tape theory where anything that's an organic surface like wood or rock, things like that, they actually have a memory and they can store that energy. And there was the Japanese scientists that proved this through these water experiments about the projection of positive and negative energy and how that can actually affect things on a molecular level.
I saw that. That study was crazy. You could speak positively to the water and it would be better. Yeah.
It would basically form like these beautiful crystals when it was frozen. And then, but the opposite, you yell at it, you project hate to it. It's going to form malfigured and disfigured looking crystals. Yeah. So it just shows like that's more what 70, 80% water. So what is that doing to us? Yeah.
That study alone pretty much proves hauntings to me. Yeah. Absolutely. Like if there's tragic events that happen somewhere, that energy is going to stay there.
And that's the thing that like always sticks with me. Like that makes sense a hundred percent to me. Like it's almost like this energy loop and you go in there, you can document this like negative energy that's still there or positive energy. Right.
But then when we get the things that are actually interacting with us and communicating with us directly, that's where it's still like takes it to a whole other level of like, Are these different dimensions of it? Is it like piercing through a different time period? You know, are they ghosts?
What we think of ghosts, you know, like there's so many different theories that I love exploring and kind of, you know, there's not one that I'm like, this is definitely it. Like I'm always still, you know, evolving and learning from it.
The time travel theory is nuts. Cause I remember when you came on last time, you were like the ghost knew you were coming somewhere. Yeah. Like that's crazy.
We've had people like literally they're like, Oh, like the day that like we signed the contract that we're like locked in, we're going to do this episode. Then someone investigated, like they were just in there and they're like, our voices came through things like that.
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Chapter 5: What are Jay Wasley's beliefs about ghosts and paranormal phenomena?
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I've heard from a lot of like spiritual people that there's no time when we pass away. Exactly. It's not linear. Yeah. So like basically everything that's happened is happening and will happening is all happening at the same time. Yeah. And that could be what ghost encounters are. It's almost like certain spaces.
There's like these like holes that you can almost pierce through and see into these other, you know, what we call time periods, you know, but it's all happening. Like every reality is happening. So like what it exactly is, I don't know, but that's one of my favorite theories right now.
interesting i hear also from a lot of people that vegas is pretty haunted oh yeah 100 yeah yeah we just did a case uh it won't be in this new season it'll probably be in the season after that where we did a home here and we were all like honestly we were all messed up from it damn from a home yeah uh this house like it had a fire they think it's like all based around this object that this guy got and
I can't go too much into it, but we ended up like the only thing we could do to help was take the object out of there and we all got messed up. Some worse than others. Um, uh, but it's weird how like it happened. And then as soon as that happened, like all of us just were having issues, like all kinds of levels. And unfortunately some of us even way worse than others.
Oh my gosh. I got to look into that one. So was that object curse you think or something?
uh we think so it's just something about this one object that and that's thing there's certain objects that if it's to do with the energy or something like it's holding on to like just such an extreme negative energy that it affects people around it well i know in the museum there's a couple of those right locked in their glass case yeah absolutely there's a glass case or salt like the dybbuk box is one of them yeah i mean there's a lot of things in there that you know like
I don't know. I explore it. So I kind of embrace it. And I, you know, even though it's terrifying, I guess could be cursed. Like we have like the, they have the devil's rocking chair, which is like a cursed rocking chair. And like, I've sat in it, you know, it's kind of crazy, but like, I was like, I want to see what happens. Did your back hurt?
Uh, no, honestly, like it was, it was a weird moment, but unfortunately, like, but also good, I guess nothing crazy from it for me at least. Yeah. You know, have you ever looked into voodoo dolls? Oh yeah.
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Chapter 6: What is the 'stone tape theory' and how do haunted objects retain energy?
Yeah, it's kind of down by Buffalo Bills. If you're driving to LA, it's like that last... you know, batch of casinos around state line and they closing down. So it was cool to be able to go into a casino that's empty and just quiet. And it's like, just that alone is so surreal to go into a casino and it's just super quiet. I remember during COVID, it was kind of like that over here.
Yeah, it's such a weird feeling.
It felt so weird.
It didn't feel like Vegas, man.
Yeah.
But that was another episode that we did more recently, and we brought out the comedian Matt Reif. Oh, he's cool. Yeah, he came out, which I was impressed. He's an actual investigator. Really? He does his own ghost hunts. No. He's 100% hardcore into it. What? It's really cool to see and really cool to be able to investigate with him.
Um, but that was another episode that was like, just so good that we're like, all right, now we're, this, this has got to move up. Like, it's can't wait. Like we want to push this one out now. I love that. Shout out to Matt. I remember post Malone came on a few of your episodes. Yeah. We had post Malone out. He was, and that's another thing. Like he goes hunted after that.
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Chapter 7: Are cursed objects and voodoo dolls real, and what paranormal encounters have been linked to them?
I remember him hitting us up and be like, Hey, can I borrow some gear? I'm going to do this ghost hunt here. Yeah.
you know uh we also do an episode which is cool too we brought out another guest uh we at the glen tavern in we bring out jonathan davis who's the lead singer of the band corn oh wow yeah which was another one like you know you wouldn't expect to be like into ghost hunting but like he's pull on into it.
And I think what was interesting with him, like he had a different take on things because before he was famous rock star, he actually worked as a mortician. Like he kind of dealt with that world in his own way. So it was kind of cool to bring his energy and mix it with ours.
Yeah. He probably saw some stuff. That's nuts. Have you, have you guys ever been denied from filming somewhere?
Yeah, I'm sure. Like, you know, we reach out, there's a lot of places that like, I don't know. Some places don't want the stigma of being like, Oh yeah, we're haunted. Like either people like some, especially businesses, like they'll sometimes they'll embrace it. And honestly you can make a whole thing of it. You know, there's hotels that are like, we're the most haunted hotel in America.
There's probably 50 of them that claim to be the most haunted hotel. And like people go there because of that. But then there's other ones that are like, no, we don't even want to like, you know, encourage that we don't even want to like promote that we might be haunted or, you know, we don't even want to talk about the bad history that we've had here. Uh, Vegas is a tough one.
Like we've tried to do different places, but a lot of like the casinos are just like zero. Like I can see that, you know, it's only positive press. Like we don't even want negativity or we don't want anything. And that's the thing. Like there's so much that goes on in these casinos that no one even knows. Like they cover it up. A lot of casinos have their own security, their own police force. Um,
that's like the whole like you know you know stereotype like they'll take you out the back door sometimes and like you know so it's not known really it's not a big deal like you know people die they kind of sneak them out and yeah try to you know cover it up before the news gets out there i heard there's like a death a week or something something crazy like that i mean i'm sure just with like people getting trouble with money or even just suicides yeah you know it's unfortunate but like it's always happening yeah uh you recently did underground tunnels beneath paris
Uh, not recently. That was actually a while ago. That was a while ago.
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Chapter 8: What is the story behind the Poltergeist House and its alleged curse?
He's like, they'll let us pass. It was like something that like a Lord of the Rings kind of like vibe thing. We're like, what is going on? And they were actually having a rave down there. No way. But everyone down there, you know, and like, no offense to anyone, but like, if you're down there, you're not really, you know, like you might be a sketchy character, you know?
So they're like, they'll let us pass. They're like, just point cameras down. Don't film anybody. Just don't even like, have them up. Like, even if they think they're being filmed, like they're going to freak out. Yeah. They're like, just point everything down on the ground and just like eyes down, just walk through. And then we went and we just passed through that.
That was like our first little experience. And then we hiked for miles. We ended up like having to wade through water. That was like, we called it bone juice. Cause it was like this weird milky looking water. Uh, and like, it was like basically up to our chest. We're like, you know, like walking through camera gear and everything.
Uh, and then eventually we get to a point where it's a T junction and our guys like climb in there, there was a hole. And so we climb in and it opened up to a giant cave and it was just filled with human bones and
basically we were about 200 feet below an old cemetery and it was a plague pit so like there's so many people dying of the plague they would just dig these giant holes and just dump all the bodies in and just fill it up so that's what we were literally walking in a plague pit you know i'm surprised you didn't catch a disease over right yeah i mean but there you know there was just bones like you can't even see a floor like you're just walking through it like just crunching on bones and
It was still to this day the most surreal place I think I've ever been. Did it feel like kind of haunted there? Honestly, not as much as you would think. We weren't focused too much on investigating that special. It was kind of more of like what people's beliefs are and the afterlife and kind of like how the dead are treated, things like that. We did investigate a little bit and got some evidence.
But... I think like oddly felt like oddly peaceful in a weird way. Like, I don't know if it's because like, it's such a respected thing and they did make the shrine. Now they made this museum to like honor everybody that died. Obviously they didn't get all the bones. Um, but I don't know if it's because it's treated with respect. It's kind of like, you know, became peaceful. Yeah.
Did it smell awful? No, honestly, it didn't. No, it was actually, I'm surprised and clean. Even the tunnels were just like, most of them were just empty, like maybe a little like dirt kind of dust, but they were just empty tunnels for miles and miles.
Yeah. You know, they're finding a lot of underground stuff right now. Did you see the Egypt one? Right. You guys got to investigate that. I would love to get in there. That would be insane. Yeah. I wonder how many civilizations lived underground in the past.
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