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Connor Estelle Finally Shares His Side: What Really Happened Behind the Jubilee Debate | DSH #1637
23 Nov 2025
Chapter 1: How did Jubilee edit the debate and shape public perception?
When it came to editing the actual video, did they edit anything out?
Chapter 2: What was the energy in the room during the debate?
Did they make people look bad on purpose?
Chapter 3: How does going viral impact a person's life and mental health?
Oh, definitely. I mean, it was definitely selectively edited. The energy of the room was very lighthearted during my segment. Mehdi was really the only one who was super offended.
Chapter 4: What backlash did the guest face after the debate?
You know, when we were laughing, I think it was more just kind of a trolling.
Chapter 5: How did faith help the guest navigate the negativity?
And it felt like when they edited it, they were trying to make us out to be... these like scary monsters right these scary people oh you don't want to talk to that person right right they're you know a fascist a nazi i don't know why it needs to be that way
Chapter 6: What role does friendship and community play in personal resilience?
Okay, guys, we got Pinesap on today.
Chapter 7: Why is open conversation more valuable than labels?
I'm sure you've seen him everywhere on the internet recently, man.
Chapter 8: What insights does the guest share about finding meaning in life?
This guy got famous overnight. Thanks for coming on, man. Absolutely. Thank you for having me on, Sean Kelly. I thought it'd be really important to share your side of the story because we're getting one perspective at the moment. You know, the guy's going on a press tour on all the biggest podcasts. So I appreciate you taking the time to come on. Absolutely. And thank you for platforming me too.
I mean, your platform is a really good means of just allowing people to speak their mind and speak what's really on their heart. And so I knew you were the perfect guy to just kind of collaborate with. And this opportunity that you've given me, I can't thank you enough. Oh, I appreciate that, man. Yeah, I just want to hear where you're at.
What did you think of all the reception, all the feedback after the episode aired from Jubilee? Yeah, so I really was not expecting it. I knew that there was going to be controversy. There was no doubt. But
Really, when I was delivering that segment, it was going over a lot better in my head because I was surrounded in a room full of people who agree with me, who are friends or at least close allies. And when you're in that environment, you know, you're surrounded by a jury of your peers. And, you know, my peers were clearly people who are aligned with me.
but I didn't really kind of gauge the audience I was speaking to at Jubilee, which is kind of much more left-leaning or more kind of, for lack of a better term, normies. And I don't say that to be insulting, but just normal people who maybe aren't really involved in our spheres, don't know the nuances of the ways that certain terms are used or what have you.
And so if I was to really redo it, I think I would have
spoke with a little bit more of that in mind you know everyone who agrees with us knows where i was coming from but i think those people kind of just hear a phrase or a slur or what have you just kind of cast it out and they don't really know the context behind it in like our sphere our circles right so you felt like you would have uh taken back some of the things you said i think that i would have presented it better you know the content of what i said if you listen to what i'm saying i never once denied like for instance metis human dignity or what have you
Or when he was trying to, you know, press me about the Holocaust or whatever, I clearly said, like, I condemn the evils of the Nazis. Right. And for him, the reason I was kind of refusing to engage with his slurs there is because that's exactly what they are.
They're kind of buzzwords that people use to really shut out points that differentiate, I would say, from sort of the norm of the more left wing politics we see in America. You know, most people, when they hear the term fascist, they don't think that it's, you know, Giovanni Gentile or Mussolini or any of these esoteric figures.
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