
Digital Social Hour
Revolutionary Raw Living: Secrets to Optimal Wellness | Scott Hall Jr. DSH #1330
Wed, 16 Apr 2025
Discover the secrets to optimal wellness with Sean Kelly on this episode of the Digital Social Hour! 🚀 Tune in as Scott Hall Jr. shares his revolutionary take on raw living, the primal diet, and how it’s transformed his health and lifestyle over the years. 🍖🥛 From eating raw animal-based foods to debunking common myths about sickness and detoxing, this episode is packed with valuable insights you won’t want to miss! 💡 Scott dives into the principles of the primal diet, the difference between raw and primal eating, the surprising health benefits of raw milk, aged meat, and even unripe fruit. 🥚🍅 Find out why he believes fat is essential, fasting can be harmful, and how detoxing plays a critical role in true healing. He also shares jaw-dropping stories about his experiences with raw foods, fermented dishes, and unconventional wellness practices. Ready to challenge everything you thought you knew about food, health, and wellness? 🌟 Watch now and join the conversation! Don’t forget to hit that subscribe button to stay updated on more eye-opening interviews and secrets shared on the Digital Social Hour. 📺✨ Let’s explore a whole new way of living—together! 🌿🔥 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:33 - Primal Diet Overview 01:48 - Motivation for Primal Diet 02:38 - Health Benefits of Fats 03:17 - Illness on the Primal Diet 04:58 - Daily EMF and Radiation Exposure 06:48 - Food Poisoning from Plastic 08:17 - Parasites from Raw Meat 11:17 - Longevity and Diet 12:05 - Consuming Animal Waste 13:35 - Healthiest Egg Varieties 15:54 - Egg Consumption Methods 16:58 - Sourcing Raw Milk 17:35 - Vegetables in the Diet 19:30 - Importance of Hydration 22:05 - Cooking Techniques 24:03 - Understanding Viruses 28:05 - Starting Social Media Journey 29:30 - Benefits of Saunas 31:40 - Strengthening the Immune System 32:45 - Introduction to Iridology 35:42 - Exploring Germ Theory 37:55 - Vision for the Future 39:52 - Benefits of Meditation 40:55 - Nutritional Value of Organ Meats 42:04 - Swordfish Consumption 42:58 - Health Benefits of Oysters 43:40 - Nutritional Advantages of Salmon 45:39 - Understanding Allergies 47:28 - Future Plans and Goals 49:38 - Detoxification Strategies 52:20 - Handling Criticism 52:46 - Water Quality Concerns 53:23 - Connecting with Scott APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Scott Hall Jr. https://www.instagram.com/scotthalljr SPONSORS: AIRES TECH:  https://airestech.com/ LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest conversations, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and consult professionals for advice where appropriate. Content on this podcast is for entertainment and informational purposes only and should not be considered legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. #carnivorediet #detox #naturalremedies #howtodetoxyourbody #rawprimaldiet #rawfoodadvocate #goingraw #rawfood101 #rawfoodrecipesforbeginners #primalblueprint
Chapter 1: What is the difference between the primal diet and raw animal-based eating?
All right, guys, Scott Hall Jr., one of the most interesting accounts I've ever seen. Thanks for coming today, man. Thank you very much. Yeah, you're living a very unique lifestyle. It's called agonist, right? Agonist. Can you explain what that is?
So it's basically raw animal-based. There's a difference between primal and raw animal-based. With primal, there's a lot of principles we have to follow. For example, we never have fruit in the first six hours of the day. There are certain combinations we don't have fruit with red meat because that will change the way the protein is utilized. It doesn't regenerate the body as well.
We don't have milk close to meat. And there's a lot of specific rules we have to follow. If you're just eating raw meat, it doesn't mean you're primal. It just means you're raw animal based. And a lot of people confuse that.
And that's something that I try to clarify because people call themselves primal, but they're not following the primal protocols, which is like aginous, trademarked, copyrighted, whatever, the primal diet. So the primal diet is aginous. Right. And how long have you been on this diet?
Chapter 2: How did Scott Hall Jr. transition from veganism to the primal diet?
About six years. Wow. That's very long. What prompted you to start it?
Well, so before I was practicing veganism in order to enhance my meditations, and I was doing lots of fasting. And at one point I started craving raw sushi. I didn't connect any dots, but on YouTube, I was studying fasting. I saw Cole Robinson, the snake diet, and he ate raw meat in one of his videos. And like, it blew my mind. I instantly knew that that was what I needed to do.
So that night I had cooked ground beef for the first time in several months. And then the next day I hopped straight on the diet overnight from being vegan. And what are your thoughts on fasting now? People talk about some benefits with fasting, but it's often more harmful than helpful because it deteriorates your body and it can make you high because it causes a survival emergency reaction.
If you fasted and it made you feel like shit, you would die. So of course, fasting is going to make you feel good. Am I denying that there's ever a benefit to it? There could be, but like Ajna says, you're robbing Peter to pay Paul. If you're detoxing the body while fasting, you're taking nutrients from your body at the same time.
And when you detox, it's a very important principle of the problem that you need nutrients to absorb the toxins. So if you're fasting, you're not putting nutrients in the body. You can cause more damage through the fasting. So it's kind of gambling to fast. And also on the diet, we're trying to get fat. So if you're fasting, you're going to be losing weight. The opposite of what we're trying to do.
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Chapter 3: Why does Scott believe fat is essential for detox and health?
Right. Yeah. You have an interesting take on fat. You actually believe fat is healthy.
Yeah. Yeah. So when you have fat in the body, the body will prioritize storing toxins inside of the fat. And so if you get fat in the primal diet, whenever you go through a detox, you have less pain. When you detox, your body is dissolving toxins using microbes, bacteria, virus, parasite, and fungus.
And then your body needs to use nutrients to absorb them, to bind with them and remove it from the body. So if you're very skinny, you'll become very deficient when you're detoxing because all your nutrients are being used for the detox. But if you have an extra 25 pounds of body fat, you can go through a cold or a flu.
You're still going to be coughing and sneezing, but you're not going to experience a lot of pain. Have you ever gotten sick on this diet? The only time where I've gotten sick as a direct result of the foods has been, well, one time when I first started the diet, I did a premature forced detox.
So you don't want to force yourself to detox, especially when you're new to the diet, because you want to focus on getting strong and your body is going to get sick naturally once, twice a year, just like you would on a cooked diet. You want to let it happen naturally. And so three, four months into the diet, I had the moldy raspberry recipe and I took way too much.
And so this is something that agonists should have thought Then a little bit, he probably shouldn't have put it in the book. So he did an experiment where he found that there was like mutant antibodies. I don't know the exact science of people in the blood after receiving vaccines. And when they had the moldy berries a year later, the number went down.
And basically you have a half cup of moldy raspberries. And he says, warning, it can make you very fatigued for a month to a year. It fucked me out for two years because I was, I got two vaccines, HPV, right before I went vegan and started fasting. And then towards the end of my veganism spree, I was very deteriorated, very exhausted, had no energy.
I started the diet, immediately felt great initially. But when I had that moldy raspberry recipe, it fucked me up and I lost all my energy and it took years to recover. And so on the other side of things, where raw meat, Raw meat hasn't necessarily gotten me sick before. It's when I've had one time the whole foods chicken. So everybody scares salmon with chicken.
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Chapter 4: What are the risks and experiences related to sickness on the primal diet?
So I suspect that there is antibacterial substances in the packaging. And so look, I've had beef before sit in the plastic for three, four weeks where it's stinky. Yeah. I scraped that outside and I ate it. Is it completely healthy to do that? There's probably still some plastic in it, but I didn't get sick. It sat in the packaging for weeks. It was stinky, black.
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is fine. But the chicken, when I ate it, stinky in the plastic, I got really sick. That happened three different times. Same chicken, well, same source multiple different times over the course of like a year and a half. And so I think it's because there's chemicals in the packaging. So if you cook something or add chemicals to it, you mutate the bacteria and then you cause food poisoning.
So theoretically, according to Agnes, there's no such thing as food poisoning when it's raw food. If it's cooked, frozen or dried, or you add chemicals to it, it's no longer raw. So when I ate that processed or the chemical exposed chicken, then it made me sick. And the last time where I've gotten sick from raw food, well, it wasn't raw anymore because I was making high meat.
I put very warm water in a cooler and with the high meat in it to ferment it faster, it got a little bit too hot. Gave me super bad food poisoning, but you can no longer call it raw. So have I gotten sick from chemical-free raw meat? No.
That is interesting. So when you freeze it or cook it, that's when you start getting sick.
Well, you can freeze meat and even ferment it and eat that and usually be fine. But I found that. So I have given high meat to a lot of my friends. And what happened was when I gave it to them made from meat that was previously frozen, they got diarrhea from every single one. But when it was fresh meat, no diarrhea. Was it horrible diarrhea? No.
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Chapter 5: How does plastic packaging and freezing affect raw meat safety?
I can't give you an exact answer to that, but you process it more likely of having an issue.
Because a lot of people, it's a trend now to buy like half a cow or a full cow and then freeze it.
Yeah.
So is that plastic getting in the meat basically?
Yeah. If you freeze anything in plastic, it leaches into the food. Jeez. People don't know that. Even if you cook anything in metal, you get metal in the food. Really? What about those, there's certain pans, right? Yeah. Well, the only thing you want to cook in is glass. Really? Everything should be cooked in glass. Wow. If you're going to cook. Do you cook at all? Very, very rarely.
I'll have a baked potato if I'm high in anxiety and having trouble relaxing because the starch will bind with the adrenaline and help you to relax. That's the only cooked thing that's acceptable in the diet, cooked starch. But it's like a baked potato or rice or bread without soy or vegetable oil in the bread. Have you gotten any parasites from eating raw?
I've never seen any in my stool, never been tested. I've tried to get it on purpose before by having the pig intestines. That's a whole thing to get into. Dr. Joel Weinstock at the University of Iowa conducted experiments with IBS patients. So in order to... experiment outside the medical handbook or whatever, the patient has to be suffering for 10 years or be on their deathbed.
So he found four people who had IBS for 10 years and he gave them trichinosis. And three out of four had no symptoms almost immediately from the IBS, basically completely healed, lasted about several months. The fourth person, no negative or benefit. Okay. And the reason he did this experiment is because he saw that the pigs on his farm were very healthy and had trichinosis.
But the pigs in the university were all sterile with no trichinosis and in very poor health. So he gave the sterilized pigs trichinosis and their health improved dramatically very quickly. And so that's why he got the FDA clearance to do that experiment. And so Agenis says you don't have to buy the parasite eggs. You can just eat the intestines of the pig in order to get that. Did I get anything?
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Chapter 6: Are parasites harmful or beneficial according to Scott’s experience?
From Amos Miller. So there was probably a ton of mold on it.
No mold on it. If there's mold on it, I don't eat it because it'll start breaking down toxins too aggressively, cause a lot of symptoms. And that's something that you want to be very careful with, not forcing strong detox because you dissolve more toxins than you have nutrients for, you can cause more damage. So if you do the diet irresponsibly, it can be dangerous. Wow.
So how did the buffalo meat last a year long then? Well, last year, no chemicals. It's raw. So you just put it in a jar, opened it twice a week. Yeah.
That's nuts. Kept it outside. You've also eaten animal shit. I saw that video.
Yeah, a few times. I can't post on Instagram anymore. It gets... Oh, really? Yeah. So I can't do that anymore. I've had it a few times. Damn. What was that like?
Did you feel it?
I only felt a benefit once. I slaughtered a goat with my friends. Just a random goat? My friend had a farm. Oh, okay. His dad helped us butcher it. And I squeezed out the intestines like a go-gurt tube, like a piece of poop on a spoon, and I ate that. I was just at a park, had my jar with the intestines in it. People walking by, I'm like, look at me, eat this really quick.
And all my anxiety disappeared immediately after like a minute. Like, it's an obvious effect. I've ate poop like four other times. It didn't have any effects. Like, Ajna says you have to have it immediately after the cow poops. or get it straight from the intestine because the bacteria dies when it's exposed to the air. So I'll go to a farm, ask the farmer if I can eat the cow poop.
Sometimes they think I'm crazy. So this one woman was like, oh, I probably accidentally eat it all the time. That makes sense that there's bacteria in it for the probiotics. And I just wait for the cow to poop. Sometimes it takes a while. Run over with my knife and eat it really quick before the bacteria dies. Wow. Yeah.
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Chapter 7: What are the healthiest types of eggs and how should they be consumed?
Yeah. Yeah. And then you don't have to wash a glass.
Yeah.
And you can do it anywhere.
That's cool.
Yeah.
Where you get your raw milk from. It's legal in Cali, right? Oh, well, this is just from Sprouts. Oh.
You go to Real Milk Finder or get raw milk or ask ChatGPT. ChatGPT knows? Yeah. Yeah. Actually? Yeah. Ask him where to get raw milk in your city and it'll tell you. Wow.
I like this one app called Seed Oil Scout. Have you used that? Oh, no. Oh, you probably don't even go to grocery stores. Well, it's probably for cooked food, right? Yeah. But it does tell you where to get raw milk, too. Oh, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, you probably don't even go to, like, Whole Foods or anything.
Well, I do for, like, the pasteurized chicken or the celery. Oh, so you eat veggies? I don't eat vegetables. I only juice them. And that's because raw meat requires an acidic digestive environment. And if you have whole vegetables, it can alkalize your digestive tract for up to 24 hours. Hmm.
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Chapter 8: What is Scott’s approach to hydration, vegetables, and fruit on the primal diet?
Basically the same thing as normal ice cream, but better because there's more flavor when it's raw. You can make the raw cheesecake. I like to do this. I like to take the raw cheddar cheese from the Amish, no salt. I let it sit on the counter until it gets dry and starts sweating. There's a crust on the outside. Then you grate it really finely. And then you have butter with honey mixed.
A little bit of vanilla extract. That's raw butter, by the way. A little bit of vanilla extract. And you can have like plum or any kind of fruit diced on top of that. And you got to put a little bit of cream. That's delicious. You got the raw ice cream. You got the raw cheesecake. You can make a smoothie of raw milk, cream, egg, honey, and any fruit you want.
Uh, so those are like the desserts you can have. There's even sometimes the raw meat recipes I make are like dessert. You can make them very nice if you know how to make it taste good. Damn. I love cheesecake. I would actually eat while you just. Yeah. You can make, you can, instead of grating the cheese, you can actually very, very gently melt it and blend it.
And it's basically like identical, but completely healthy. And you're going to get really fat on it. Like we want to. Yeah. So there's ways you can incorporate raw food where you can enjoy and benefit in health greatly without making a big sacrifice of having to... If you eat some raw food, you're going to benefit in health, right? So I recommend experimenting with some of these recipes.
And if you learn to enjoy it, you might start to realize like, I feel a lot better eating this than the cooked food. If I feel better eating this, I'll probably feel better eating the raw meat. When you see me make a recipe that looks good, you try it, you realize you feel better. You're like... I want to feel better. Yeah.
Eventually the, the idea is that eventually you don't crave cooked food and it no longer comforts you because you can make the raw food really nice and it can satisfy you more than cooked because you're not going to be deficient anymore.
Is it true? Cooking the food, uh, gets rid of nutrients.
Yeah. So demon, uh, destroys all the enzymes, something I'll talk about another experiment with that. So what's his name? Uh, Christ Pottinger and what was it? I forgot his name, but he didn't experiment with rats. One had cooked food and one had raw food. The one that had cooked food lived the same length as the raw rats, but they had all the diseases as men. Hmm.
Then he noticed that the cooked food rats ate all their poop. So he had to redo the experiment where they couldn't eat their own poop. And the cooked food rats that didn't eat their poop only lived two-thirds as long. And the theory was that they were cycling their enzymes through their poop. And so you're enzyme deficient when you cook your food, decrease your lifespan as a result.
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Chapter 9: How does cooking food impact nutrient quality and digestion?
They got four stomachs.
Yeah, but the pigs and the chickens, they don't digest soy very well. So the pig is usually not fed as well.
Yeah, I love the Amish for food and for dogs. I got both my dogs from Amish. They're good dog eaters. Yeah, shout out to the Amish. So Gavin said, actually, I want to ask you about saunas because I like saunas, but you don't think they're the best for you, right?
Not ideal. Why? It's stressful in the lungs, thins your mucus. If you thin your mucus, you don't have the protective layer from the pollution. So you're going to absorb more toxins. So if you're coughing and sneezing, the mucus is removing toxins from the pollution or something that your body dissolved already. So if you're dissolving that, like, hey, you might temporarily breathe better.
But later you're more likely to get things like asthma because your lungs can get damaged. So what if you use a sauna where your head's sticking out?
Have you seen those?
Um, yeah, sure. But it's not ideal because well, one, if the sweat stays on you for a long time, it can damage your skin because you're detoxing through it. So you want to wipe off your sweat and, um, the air does not transfer heat as well as a hot bath. So if you're in a hot bath, you can detox much faster than a sauna because the water transfers heat faster. What do you put in your hot baths?
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Chapter 10: What is Scott’s perspective on viruses and detoxification?
So because of the tap water, you have to put the raw milk, apple cider vinegar, and salt to neutralize the toxins. Wow. And then it's fine to bathe in. You still can't drink it though. Does that get rid of the microplastics in the birth control? Um, I don't know about the plastics because it's like a physical thing, but, um, any chemicals in anything in the water, it'll help absorb it.
So it doesn't cause issues. So like Agnes was super sensitive and like he would take a shower and he could like feel the chemicals in it. And with how sensitive he is, if he could take a hot bath with the milk and he's fine, it's like everybody else is going to be fine. Are you doing cold plunges too? I do not do the cold exposure. Really? Yeah.
I used to do it really hard thinking I was making myself stronger mentally and I was becoming tougher. But your body has to use nutrients to warm itself up. So it can waste your nutrients and deteriorate you. And it applies a lot of stress to the body. And what we want to do is we want to relax. and get fat and sleep a lot.
And the ice baths can stimulate you, give you a ton of energy, not because you're becoming healthier, but because it's an emergency response. So sometimes people can be in poor health, experiencing detox symptoms, and they can do an ice bath and feel better because their body has to stop the detox.
Yeah.
Because it has to deal with the emergency response. Same goes for fasting or supplements. Your body has to stop the detox in order to process what's happening to it.
You believe the immune system doesn't exist.
So the immune system is basically a misunderstanding or, so they tell us that the immune system fights microbes and it's like, well, your immune system fails and you get sick because the bacteria took over or whatever. Oginus says the immune system is actually the lymphatic system. It dissolves toxins in the body and eliminates it.
When you're sick, your lymph nodes get swollen because it's filtering toxins. So the body utilizes microbes to dissolve toxins and eliminate it from the body. It's not fighting the microbes. It's utilizing them to break down the toxins. Interesting. Yeah. So we don't want to focus on preventing sickness. We want to allow ourself to get sick whenever it happens naturally and finish it.
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Chapter 11: How did Scott start his social media journey and gain popularity?
Yeah. Basically, I say agenesis for everything because everything's based on agenesis. And also, I like to think maybe it takes some liability off of me. I don't know. I'm just the messenger of agenesis. But heavy metal stored in the communication center of the brain affects your ability to communicate. If it stores anywhere else, that's where it's going to damage. Yeah.
So you don't, you're not a fan of blood work, right? No. What's a good test to measure health in your opinion?
Irises. Irises. I don't really believe in any tests. Where's a good spot? Um, there's only like one or two people who can read the irises. That's it? Holy crap. In the world? There's a lot of people who can do it, but not primal style. Oh, okay. And so, um, there is David Fraser. He can do the irises. There's this other guy. His name's Kleke.
Um, if you look at my following on Instagram, you can search them and find their names. Okay. Um, but there isn't a lot of urologists and people say they can do it, but nobody can compare it to aginus. The system was completely unique.
You believe that germ theory is a myth.
Yeah, so germs creating disease? No, germs reverse disease. They dissolve toxins in the body, like I mentioned earlier. And when you're sick, you're detoxing. So... How disease results is that toxins accumulate in the body, damage the system, and prevent proper function. Or it's the result of deficiencies. Your body doesn't have what it needs to function properly.
So it's not that bacteria is attacking the body, damaging anything. It's that the bacteria is removing those toxins. So you have to dissolve the toxins, microbes, foods in the diet, and then fulfill the deficiencies with raw foods.
I will say during the pandemic, as soon as everyone started going back outside, they all got sick because everyone's immune system, or you don't believe in immune system, but everyone wasn't exposed, I guess, right? The germ.
Yeah, I don't have any comment on that necessarily. Ajna says like you have seasonal detox, like people get sick at the same time every year. Like I'll get sick usually every December when you're by detoxes and cycles or... He even said he had a dream one time that your body learned how to detox by being around someone who was sick because it could get the blueprint of the solvent, the virus.
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