Digital Social Hour
The Truth About Social Media's Role in Election Outcomes 2024 | Luke Beasley DSH #942
Mon, 02 Dec 2024
Discover the shocking truth about how social media platforms shape election outcomes in 2024! 🗳️ We're diving into a candid discussion about the complex relationship between tech giants and democracy, exploring everything from platform ownership to content moderation. From Elon Musk's influence on X to the role of traditional media, we're breaking down the real impact of social networks on voter behavior. Get ready for an eye-opening conversation about election integrity, platform bias, and the future of democratic discourse online. We're tackling tough questions about content moderation, political messaging, and how social media echo chambers affect election results. Plus, hear fascinating insights about how different platforms handle political content and what it means for future elections. Whether you're interested in tech, politics, or the intersection of both, this episode offers a balanced, in-depth look at how social media continues to reshape our democratic process. From fact-checking to viral misinformation, we're examining the tools and tactics that influence modern elections. Join us for this crucial conversation about democracy in the digital age. Perfect for anyone concerned about the future of elections, social media's impact on society, and the evolving landscape of online political discourse. 🎯 #news #donaldtrump #digitalmarketing #socialmediamarketing #kamalaharris #trump #news #donaldtrump #election #kamalaharris CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 00:35 - Post-Election Analysis 04:59 - BetterHelp Overview 06:00 - Trump's Vibes and Influence 11:07 - Crime Rates Discussion 16:34 - Trump's Recent Hires 17:52 - Facts vs. Opinions Debate 19:50 - Media Bias Examination 23:35 - Kamala Harris Insights 26:51 - Trump and Elon Musk Relationship 31:40 - Reproductive Rights Issues 33:13 - Kamala Harris and Border Policies 43:10 - Elon Musk Buying Twitter 44:07 - Trump Banned from Social Media 46:37 - Jubilee 1v25 Discussion 51:16 - Political Spectrum Positioning 53:43 - The Left's Evolution 57:00 - Politics and Business Impact 58:19 - Luke's Final Thoughts 1:00:00 - Where to Find Luke APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Luke Beasley https://www.instagram.com/lukebeasleyofficial/ www.youtube.com/@LukeBeasley SPONSORS: BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.com/DSH LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the implications of social media on election outcomes?
I was really proud of how, at large, you have your crazies always, but we really do believe in standby. The fact that Trump is threatening our democracy is violating so many of our most basic American principles.
But still, you saw Biden at the White House with Trump able to acknowledge democracy has to come first and we're not going to do what MAGA did last time and lie about the election for four years, try to overturn it, all those sorts of things.
Chapter 2: How did Trump's influence affect the election results?
Right. That's why I think it's important on my show to have on the other side. So I'm not just seeing one opinion the whole time. All right, guys, we got Luke Beasley on today. Post-election, man. How are you feeling?
Not as great as I was feeling before, to be honest. Yeah.
You thought she was going to win it?
I don't know what I believed. I've said before, I have a hard time deciphering between optimism and my actual prediction. I definitely knew Trump could win. I don't think I was expecting the electoral...
beating right it was landslide right he won by like 100 votes yeah i didn't even i didn't expect that i thought it'd be way closer i thought some of the swing states would go her way yeah and he won every single one i believe yep all seven which is crazy crazy but you get in these these bubbles when you're on social media right when like like i log into twitter and it's just all conservative stuff so that's why i think it's important on my show to have on the other side so i'm not just seeing one opinion the whole time
Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah. And I was really proud of how at large you have your crazies always, but at large how the Democratic coalition has responded because we really do believe in standby. The fact that Trump is threatening our democracy is violating so many of our most basic American principles.
But still, you saw Biden at the White House with Trump able to acknowledge democracy has to come first and we're not going to do what MAGA did last time and lie about the election for four years, try to overturn it and all those sorts of things.
Yeah, it was cool to see that video of Biden and Trump together. They seemed like they were on better terms.
Yeah, I think Biden was just being the bigger man.
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Chapter 3: What role does media bias play in political discourse?
That was over Trump wanting to get Pence to, instead of certifying, which is just the procedural role the vice president's supposed to engage in, the actual lawful electors, he was trying to get Pence to just take other random Republicans saying, we're the lawful electors from the swing states, and we say Trump won, which would have been...
a coup luckily pence said i'm not doing that and then trump's followers chanted hang mike pence and to the day trump left office he was pretending like there was a chance he was going to stay in office beyond january 20th that's how you completely collapse your democracy so again going back to why i'm proud of my movement is even in the face of someone who his own former chief of staff described as a fascist is victorious we still preserve our democracy
Yeah, I will say Mark Cuban congratulated him. I liked seeing that. Obviously, he was very pro Kamala. You guys lost some subscribers when it happened, right? I saw Pac-Man talk about this.
Yeah, I'm happy we made... We sounded the alarms. I'm happy we very quickly said, guys, if your reaction to this election result is detaching, that's how we get more results like this. So please stay engaged, however hopeless you can feel. But it did get a little bit overblown because within days we started seeing.
Chapter 4: How did Kamala Harris handle the election campaign?
You got it back. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, he's still challenging that 2020 election, it seems like.
Which I don't understand how anyone sees past that by itself. Because any other issue, if you care about reproductive rights or the economy or crime, the way we address any of those issues is through our democratic process. We choose people who we think have the best ideas. And Trump says, no, I'm not going to engage thoughtfully.
in that process i'm going to say that local officials should find votes for me when i lose elections and the fact that we rewarded him for that behavior now the federal cases are being dropped the one election interference one has to be dropped because trump's becoming president and we're rewarding him for attacking the foundation of our democracy which again we can get into why i think he won and why people get distracted from that most important issue
but it is a crying shame.
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Didn't have evidence to prove. There was 81 million votes for Biden in that election. So I do see people on X right now saying like, where did the 15 million votes go? Have you seen stuff like that?
Well, a big backlash election to Trump's pandemic handling. It makes sense there was more of a movement to elect the opposition then. But then once Biden and Harris were in power, now those pandemic issues that actually they were handling really well. But across the Western world, we've seen voters want to punish the incumbent parties for the handling of the pandemic.
And just because it's hard to square in your brain that you could feel all this economic pain. It's very real. But then also say it's being handled well by the party in power, which it definitely was. If you compare the data on how we've handled this to other countries, how we've handled it compared to the projections, how Biden handled it compared to Trump.
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Chapter 5: In what ways did Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter impact politics?
like sometimes politicians give these political answers, which I understand they have to do, right? They got to put on appearance. But these days, I feel like people want that authentic feel. They want to see who they actually are.
Chapter 6: What are the consequences of Trump's social media bans?
Yeah. And I think sometimes we overstate how much Trump was connecting with people. I think a lot of this was whoever the Republican was, was going to benefit from the vibes, the anti-incumbent vibes, along with other things. But again, I have a hard time believing the I know the fear-mongering works that Trump was doing, but it's not like he was nailing those interviews himself.
Yeah. Unbroken, he did seem a little all over the place. I'll admit that. I watched that episode. Yeah. But I really think the conservatives have taken over alternative media, like the podcast space specifically and a lot of YouTube.
Yeah, there's a lot of left-of-center voices such as myself. You talked to David Pakman, Brian Todd Cohen, and others. And we're building a pretty big block of sort of an audience. But I think there's more of a direct relationship between right-wing media and right-wing leaders and politicians who reinforce the messaging and show up and bolster the platforms of those people. Whereas...
we largely get ignored by the democratic establishment for example and democratic politicians and they're still stuck in this head space where mainstream media is the end-all be-all and so i think a lot needs to change between now and the next election one of one of the major things it won't have to do with how we brand and how we adjust some of it will just be the structural stuff like i'm saying no longer will people be blaming a biden harris for these pandemic conditions
But you also have to adjust where you can. And one of the things is we got to invest more in alternative media, like you said.
Absolutely. You got to adapt because traditional media numbers are dwindling year by year. Yeah. I just saw something where I think it was MSNBC is really struggling. One of the big networks, you know, a lot of post-election discontent among those viewers. Yeah. You said something earlier. Crime is down. People think it's up. What is what is that based off of?
what is the disconnect or what's like where those where'd you get those numbers from where the crime rates were down you said under kamala and baden yeah the fbi crime stats sort of really always used to was that compared to trump's presidency or what was that compared to so crime now is down to pre-pandemic uh pre-pandemic levels are even lower and like homicide rates have gotten extremely low and so people feel less safe but they're actually by many metrics safer than they've been even going back before the trump administration but
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Chapter 7: How does misinformation spread through social media?
What happened was during the pandemic, I'd, of course, say Trump exacerbated the economic crisis, the public health crisis, the crime crisis, all by his lack of a serious and coherent response to the pandemic, something that even his own medical professionals have later spoken out against, saying that we could have saved hundreds of thousands of lives if he took this thing more seriously, more early.
But even so, you had this end of Trump administration crisis. crime spike, Biden-Harris inherit that, right? So we had higher unemployment than when Trump came into office. That's what they had to inherit because of pandemic conditions and his handling. You had this public health thing they had to handle and then crime was up.
What was super infuriating was then immediately conservative voices jumped in saying, the crime stuff is the problem of Biden-Harris. They created this even though it predated them. Same thing with all these economic problems. And then as much as Fox News in sort of the 2021, 2022 period like to fearmonger about crime because it was up during that pandemic period.
They never turned around and went, wow, it's so spectacular that it rapidly plummeted back to pre-pandemic levels. And a lot of that is very, again, structural, systemic. It was going to happen as we got the pandemic under control. It's why Trump should have taken getting the pandemic under control more seriously.
But you do have to point to the record federal investments in public safety and law enforcement that happened under Biden-Harris as well. and they actually have, like passing the gun safety bill and some other things, taken active steps that can be contributing to these solid numbers.
So this, among so many other issues, is one that if we're just talking about data, you have this really strong case for why Democrats should have been given another term in power, but it doesn't align with how a lot of people feel. And I think a lot of that is more complicated than what I'm about to say, but some of it comes down to the right-wing media echo chamber is really effective.
Yeah, because you said earlier the facts favored Harris in this election. So you just wanted her to be more vocal about the facts, basically.
Yeah, and she definitely was flawed. But she ran a pretty solid campaign, given that she had to throw it all together in just a few months. But... I don't know if the best messenger could have convinced people. We could have moved the needle, and I'm sure there's some scenario where we could have won.
But seeing the overwhelming results makes me feel like it has to be something a little bit more... I keep coming back to this term, but structural.
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Chapter 8: What are the challenges of balancing facts and opinions in political commentary?
Maybe. I... I think we hold her to such a different standard than Trump. Some of this feels less relevant now that he's won because the comparison between the two of them is less relevant. But she'll go in, she'll get asked a question about a subject. And even if it's a prepared talking point, she addresses generally the subject. And then Trump gets asked any question.
He just starts saying they're coming from jails. They're coming from insane asylum and repeats like five talking points. Whenever we are prepping for the show each day, whenever the campaign was going on, he would do all these events. We'd be playing it out loud while we're working on stuff.
And, you know, any question he's asked, I could throw out three different phrases that he's going to go to and he would go to one of them. And often they're just him meandering and doing what he calls the weave, which is really just rambling.
I think we never criticize, not we never, but folks who criticize Harris for not comprehensively enough or succinctly enough addressing certain questions never put that on Trump when it's difficult to find an example of him just directly and concisely answering questions.
Yeah, there are no examples I remember of him just clearly talking about policies, for example. So I'll give you that for sure.
Yeah, and when he does, like the viral tariff moment I know you referenced earlier, they convey a true lack of understanding about the policies he's talking about, which is what frightens me that Americans are so willing to vote for him when every time he's asked about policy, if he really does give it a go, it's like a child talking about policy.
Well, hopefully he could just make the right hires, you know?
Yeah, which he's not doing.
You don't think Elon and Vivek were a good thing with Doge?
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