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The Vitamin A Lie: Why Your 'Healthy' Diet May Be Toxic | Thor Torrens DSH #986
Mon, 16 Dec 2024
🚨 The Vitamin A Lie: Is your 'healthy' diet secretly toxic? 🍎 Thor Torrens drops mind-blowing truths about vitamin A toxicity and how it's affecting millions. 😱 From fortified foods to supplements, discover why this 'essential nutrient' might be wreaking havoc on your health. Learn about: • The shocking history of vitamin A research 🔬 • How everyday foods could be overloading your system ⚠️ • The surprising link between vitamin A and autoimmune diseases 🦠 • Why liver supplements might be doing more harm than good 💊 Thor shares his personal journey and eye-opening insights that could change your approach to nutrition forever. Don't miss this game-changing episode that challenges everything you thought you knew about 'healthy' eating! Watch now and subscribe for more insider health secrets. 🔔 Join the conversation and take control of your wellness journey with Digital Social Hour! 💪 #VitaminA #HealthMyths #NutritionTruths #DigitalSocialHour #SeanKelly #ThorTorrance #AutoimmuneDiet #HealthyEating #WellnessTips #functionalmedicine #supplementregulations #integrativemedicine #vitamina #toxicitysymptoms #medicalresearch #autoimmunedisease #autoimmuneeyedisease #autoimmuneprotocol #systemiclupus CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Vitamin A Toxicity Explained 04:59 - BetterHelp Sponsorship 06:18 - Grant Genereux: Chronic Kidney Disease Recovery 09:02 - Risks of Seasonal Plants and Smoothies 10:27 - Carrots and Vision: Debunking the Myth 13:30 - Understanding Vitamin A Overdose 19:54 - Accutane and Its Effects 21:50 - The Toxicity of Vitamin A 23:35 - The Supplement Industry Insights 29:00 - Health Improvement Strategies 32:31 - The Truth About Parasite Cleanses 36:50 - The Truth About Ashwagandha 38:40 - Benefits of Organic Eating 42:37 - The Role of Coffee in Health 46:34 - Baking Soda Uses and Myths 47:41 - Bill Gates and Health Discussions 49:17 - Realities of Vitamin A Toxicity 56:35 - Concepts of Reverse Aging 1:00:18 - Thors Community Overview 1:01:07 - Conclusion and Wrap-Up APPLY TO BE ON THE PODCAST: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application BUSINESS INQUIRIES/SPONSORS: [email protected] GUEST: Thor Torrens https://www.instagram.com/thortorrens https://thortorrens.com/ SPONSORS: BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.com/DSH LISTEN ON: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 Sean Kelly Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seanmikekelly/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is vitamin A toxicity and why is it a concern?
How are people becoming vitamin A toxic? In 1970, they decided mandate fortification programs of dairy, cereals, grains, baby formula. 10 years later, starting in 1980, you start to see all the autoimmune disease exponentially rise.
All right, guys, Thor Torrens here today. We're going to talk vitamin A, aren't we? Oh, yeah, we are. I see you tweet about it every day. So yeah, break it down for everyone watching this because vitamin A is you're not a fan of it, right? No.
So it's an important topic. Vitamin A is not a vitamin. Okay. January this year, I read this book called Poisoning for Profits by Grant Jenrew. And it changed my entire world. Basically, in 1970, we started... First of all, let's backtrack to the cornerstone research in the early 1900s. Rockefeller research. Scientists, you know, evil white men, discovered...
this vitamin, vitamin A. It was the first discovery. Before this, the word vitamin was really vital amines, which was like protein, a macro, an essential. But then all of a sudden, they had this chase, this discovery of, hey, Nobel Peace Prize, patent, And where there's a money grab, there's corruption, right?
So there was a race to discover this hidden molecule inside food that somehow we were all deficient in. So vitamin A was the first discovery. It's actually retinol, which is an alcohol. You see that OL at the end. And it is a fat-soluble toxin. So what does that mean? Your liver can get too much of it. You have a quota. They quietly tell you, hey, the RDA is 3,000 IUs a day. None of us listen.
None of us really care because it's a vitamin, right? When you think liver, when you think non-alcoholic liver, when you think fatty liver, when you think cirrhosis of the liver, you think drugs and alcohol, right? And some like other. The last thing you think is a vitamin. But a lot of women know and a lot of doctors that deal with pregnant women know, hey, vitamin A causes birth defects.
So that was the first thing. When my wife had our first child, she didn't want to take a multivitamin with vitamin A in it, a prenatal. And I was like, okay, yeah. She's like, it causes birth defects. Never thought anything else of it.
didn't realize that me being a health nut, I was doing liver, I was doing cod liver oil, I was doing a multivitamin, I was eating a sweet potato every day, trying to eat a carrot salad, doing spinach or a dark leafy green, doing a red pepper. I was basically trying to check the box every day with all the nutrients and And I overdosed. I became hypervitaminosis A, vitamin A toxic. Wow.
Which now it looks like one out of three people are vitamin A toxic. How are people becoming vitamin A toxic? In 1970, they decided mandate fortification programs of dairy, cereals, grains, baby formula. The low-fat craze brought in the margarines and the low-fat dairy. Mm-hmm. And 10 years later, starting in 1980, you start to see all the autoimmune disease exponentially rise.
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Chapter 2: How did fortification programs contribute to vitamin A toxicity?
This is why it's a very gray area and a convoluted conversation because a guy at 55 years old after 40 years of dairy every day, say he's doing 5,000 IUs a day, right? It's a math equation. Are you taking in more vitamin A than you're able to get rid of? So this guy, it might take him 30 years to become toxic and get an autoimmune disease.
where it's a lot less likely that that kind of person is going to put two and two together. Where if someone takes Accutane, this is basically isotretinoin, which by the way, your body converts all forms of vitamin A into some forms of this in the body. They're getting acutely poisoned.
And that's why when you look at the side effects of Accutane, it's like 50 different symptoms from irritability, angry, suicidal thoughts, anxiety, depression, dry skin, liver damage like the list goes 50 things long these are also the symptoms of vitamin A toxicity and these are also the same symptoms of 50 different autoimmune conditions
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Basically, this guy, Granton Rue, he's a genius engineer. He had chronic kidney disease, debilitating eczema, early onset dementia, and really bad joint pain. He was looking at going on dialysis. They said, you know, you don't have much time left. And he was looking at years of a steroid cream for his eczema that caused more cancer and side effects down the line. So he said, this makes no sense.
And his doctor said, oh, it's nothing you ate. It's bad luck. It's genetics. There's no cure. You know, good luck, basically. So one night he goes late at night onto an eczema forum and he sees this thing called trigger foods. And he's like, that's weird. What's a trigger food? Oh, well, this is a food that if you eat it, your eczema gets worse.
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Chapter 3: What are the myths about carrots and vision?
Yeah, there's a lot there, man. I want to start with the carrots because as kids, they tell us to eat that to have good vision. But that's a myth, right? Yeah.
So the original carrot was white. OK, the French made it orange to honor the Dutch flag. And then by domesticating it, by crossbreeding it, they realize that not only is the orange carrot sweeter. Right. So taste. But the colorful plant, the colorful orange sells more than the white carrot. Hmm. So the white carrot got phased out over time. So we were never supposed to be eating an orange carrot.
Once again, we're going against nature. For some people, you'd say you're going against God and you're gonna pay the price for it. The myth of carrots being good for your eyesight started in World War II. The British pilots basically lied to the German side, the German pilots saying that they were eating carrots to improve their night vision.
with what we know now by all the research and studies, vitamin A actually hurts your night vision. Vitamin A actually hurts the epithelial tissue of your eyes and causes cataracts and deterioration. So it was a total lie. Not only in that hand, but again, just logically, this is something that didn't occur in nature.
We didn't have the orange carrot in nature, and now we have every Tom, Dick, and Harry online saying, have a carrot salad, drink your carrot juice. And it's just another thing we get people off of, and then we see a lot of results in them leveling up because of that. Steve Jobs used to drink a lot of carrot juice. Steve, great point.
So did you know that when Ashton Kutcher played Steve Jobs in the bio epic, Ashton Kutcher was hospitalized for pancreatitis. Holy crap. Because he tried to do the Steve Jobs diet and drink carrot juice every day. This is just more and more proof. There's an English guy in 1976, forgetting his name. overdosed and died of drinking, I think, 14 gallons of carrot juice in like a two-week period.
He was also supplementing with vitamin A, but when the police and ambulance found him, he was dead on the ground, orange and yellow. Basically, dyed orange skin. Vitamin A is in all the multivitamins, right? Vitamin A is in all of, not all of them, but majority of them.
For some reason, majority of multivitamins have 150 to 200% the RDA, which to me is insanity because, okay, experts are already telling you, you can get too much of this thing. There's an RDA. It's 3,000 IUs. Well, then why are we putting double the RDA? And basically we're saying, don't eat another piece of food for the rest of the day. You've already reached your quota.
So what I like to say is we're kind of health accountants, right? You have somebody doing the in and out with your wealth. You have someone tracking your expenses. You have someone tracking your in. Who's tracking the intake of fat soluble toxins like vitamin A? So I had a guy the other day who joined our community and we tallied up all his nutrients, he was doing 20,000 IUs of vitamin A a day.
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Chapter 4: How is Accutane related to vitamin A toxicity?
So this is why we've had so much success in fixing skin problems, getting people regular. You look at the oldest family in the world, the Malise family in Sardinia. I think they're 850 years old combined age. Every day they have a three bean soup. Wow. Yeah. So it hurts me to see that so many of these health gurus online are, oh, beans and oats are peasant food, right?
And they villainize beans and oats because the Lexins and the other things because they don't realize they're really mad at what vitamin A and retinoic acid has done. So retinoic acid comes into the bile, that bile goes into the intestinal lining, and it's basically like a chemical peel, right? So a chemical peel, a yellow peel, a facial is what they give women to make their skin look young.
They call it a yellow peel. Vitamin A is yellow. It's a vitamin A peel. How it works, it basically burns off a layer of skin to sell turnover. So what happens? You get a bunch of red skin and it hurts for five days and then you're like, oh my God, my skin looks new. But if you go back for rounds three, four, and five, you get severely injured, right?
This is what people are doing to their gut linings over time. They're basically chemical peeling retinoic acid, vitamin A in their gut lining. And then they have issues with the gluten and the lectin and the oats and all these. Then they become intolerant. So what we do, we had a guy Weldon on the One of Ones podcast who three years into a low vitamin A diet,
reversed celiac disease no longer celiac he can have gluten again so he restored his gut lining he stopped the toxins coming in fixed the deficiencies that those toxins caused and now he can eat these foods that have been villainized that we've been eating for thousands of years you know 100 years ago no one had a gluten problem you know no one even knew what gluten was
So it's just kind of another thing we're shining the light on. And the carnivore community, I respect greatly because they know the power of red meat. They want to get better. Everybody wants to get better. But it's like, hey, let's make sense of this all. And this is a huge piece of the puzzle that you guys are missing.
And because it's fat soluble, because the liver accumulates it over time, a lot of people overlook it and don't get it. Right. The first time you drank alcohol, you didn't wake up with a hurt liver. You know, it's like 30, 40 years later where you're like, oh, now I feel a pain. Your liver takes pain, the blows for you silently, right?
They call fatty liver and cirrhosis the silent disease, you know? So it's a real thing.
Absolutely. Dude, I was on Accutane for seven months. I had a blood test last year. I still have liver damage 10 years later.
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Chapter 5: What are the dangers of the supplement industry?
And my whole thing is like as a health person, as a health coach, as a nutritionist, as a doctor, as a biohacker, if you are selling supplements, even if it's a safe supplement, that supplement's only going to work for 70% to 80% of people.
There's going to be 20% or 30% of people, if you're not doing a blood test with them and a hair test with them, you can't just say, hey, take this at this amount and good luck. So even at a healthy mineral or vitamin, it's like, hey, if that didn't work for you, don't take it. Let's reassess. Let's try something else. Let's look at your blood and hair.
With these guys selling liver, they're like, oh, that didn't work for you? No, read these studies. That's your problem. Someone sent me an email of one of the liver companies targeting pregnant women, saying that liver is safe to take for pregnant women. First of all, vitamin A is known in the literature to cause birth defects. Liver is also high in copper, which a lot of people are copper toxic.
We're seeing now, and we'll get to that with the birth control conversation. You cannot tell, I cannot tell a pregnant woman, hey, this liver is going to be safe for you. Guess why? I have no idea how much vitamin A is in her liver already. Yeah. The way it works is if your liver has reached full saturation, it's like a bucket in your backyard filled to the top with water.
Any amount of water dropped into that is going to cause a spillover. So if we have a pregnant woman who's already at a saturation, I could never in a million years say, hey, it's safe to take liver. The answer is, hey, I have no idea if this is safe for you. And it's better to be cautious and just not do it because this is why so many babies are being born.
50%.
What's the color of jaundice? Yellow. Yellow. What's the color of vitamin A? Yellow. What's the color of non-alcoholic fatty liver disease? Yellow. What are people with yellow eyes, yellow hands, yellow nail beds? So we're seeing a lot of it. You go to a plastic surgeon and you ask them about liposuction, all their healthy clients, their fat is yellow or orange.
They'll tell you, oh, I had a really healthy client today. The fat was bright orange. Vitamin A toxicity. Now we can get into the obesity topic. Why is obesity and vitamin A correlated? Once your body has had enough in the liver, it now is time to store toxins other places. What's another place the body can store toxins? In the fat.
So this is why I get mad and argue with a lot of guys on Twitter and online of, oh, it's calories in, calories out, right? All you need to do is count calories. Well, if you're counting calories, but you're still intaking, consuming toxins, your body... specifically one person different than the other, wants to store that somewhere.
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Chapter 6: How can dietary changes reverse chronic health issues?
over time, and if you look, you can type in PubMed, multi-ingredient supplements liver injury, it's the leading cause of liver injury in the hospitals, is multi-ingredient supplements. So these guys have no idea what they're doing. It's blind leading the blind. They're playing total guessing games. Because the liver will accumulate over years, it's very hard to tell.
You would need a liver biopsy, right? And that's dangerous. People say, oh, my liver enzymes are fine. Your liver enzymes aren't going to start sounding the alarm until it's very late in the game, right? So keep this in mind. Stay conscious of every day I'm putting things through my system. Every day my liver is my commander-in-chief who is filtering and allocating.
And the more work, the more product I give my liver, the more stressed my liver will be. And this is why people in our community and my clients are like energy levels through the roof, feeling better than ever because really we're just not taxing their liver like everyone else is. Right. Another thing Brian Johnson is doing totally wrong is he's eating colorful plants all day long. He's vegan.
365 days a year, colorful plants, not natural. These are seasonal plants. You're supposed to eat them seasonally. And this is why you see him, oh, I still have joint pain. Or, oh, I went out and I stayed out till 1 a.m. now and I'm wrecked.
We're building resilient humans who, even if you deviate for a day or two, it's not supposed to blow you off the rails like a little flower or snowflake where you can't thrive anymore. So he's making a lot of mistakes. He's doing a lot of high carotenoid foods. He's doing a lot of high chemical warfare plants, and he's over-supplementing, and he's playing guessing games.
And he's afraid to go out in the sun, which is to me is like the definition of false light. Yeah. He only leaves in the early morning and late night, I believe. Yeah. Which is listen, my whole thing is like, OK, will the sun damage your skin over time? Yes. It's balance in all things. Right. So just how we don't go out.
If you spent five years never being in the sun, I'm not going to be like, hey, go out at noon in South Beach. No sunscreen. Right. right it's like hey slow cook it in the morning slow cook it towards sunset and work your way up work up a base yeah absolutely you also had a uh interesting take on parasite cleanses because i get videos for those every day
Yeah, so I almost fell victim to the parasite cleanse thing. Listen, guys, it's this simple. Parasites, bugs, pathogens, where do they thrive? Stagnant wastewater, right? You are either a cesspool of crap or you're an efficient plumbing system. So parasites are a proxy of a toxic human body, right?
So all these parasite cleanse and herbs and master cleanses are another thing people are doing to damage their liver, right? We had a guy, I think, in your group chat or a girl who was like, yes, and I recommend you do this four times a year every year. It's like, you want me to take a parasite herb four times a year for the rest of my life?
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Chapter 7: What should we know about liver supplements and their risks?
Yeah, so ashwagandha does something to a serotonin receptor. I think it's 5-1-TA, 5-H-1-TA receptor. where it basically acts as an SSRI, right? So what does that mean? It causes guys to feel nothingness, numbness, totally blunts emotions. So I started seeing more and more people, and I know people are going to say source bro and this and that, but if you go on Reddit and the subreddits,
You can see on the ashwagandha pages that people are messed up from it. I had a few friends who got messed up from it. And when we come back, if I'm in the health niche, if my business and profession is getting people better, I could never tell any human to take ashwagandha after what I saw. Holy crap. Yeah. And it's just another example of plants as medicine.
Well, medicine, you're supposed to take once in a while. So what is it called if you are every day doing plant medicine, you're identifying as a sick human being, right? So we were never supposed to chronically abuse these plants because plants don't have teeth. Plants don't have claws. Plants don't have feet to run away. What do they have? Chemical warfare. They have built-in pesticides, oxalates.
carotenoids that do work, that hurt people because plants want to survive. So people say, oh, that's just for little animals. Well, yeah, a little animal won't eat that plant because that little animal will die instantly. We're a big animal. What do you think happens to us if we make that a daily habit? It's going to do something to us over time. Does eating organic help with any of that?
No, it can make it worse a lot of times. Really? People are like, oh, well, I grow my food in a garden. And it's like, well, that means it's probably even higher in carotid noise. You know, that means it has more color. People say, oh, I get my eggs from the farm. The yolk is orange. Yeah, you have more vitamin A in your yolk. Pasture raised.
So it's like people don't realize what they're doing of, you know, a tomato is still a tomato. A tomato is still an inflammatory nightshade that's high in beta carotene, high in lycopene, high in these things that... When the tomato first came to Italy in 1492, it was considered a table ornament. They said, don't eat that plant. It's a poisonous plant related to the belladonna.
Fast forward today, people don't even know that the tomato is not Italian. Italians have not been eating tomatoes for 10 times longer than they've been eating them. And if you told people that the Italian's not originally, the tomato's not originally from Italy, they'd look at you like you're crazy. It's another food. Tomato is the most popular vegetable in the world right now.
It's not even a vegetable. It's a fruit and it's a trigger food. It's a high allergen food, especially for eczema because it's an inflammatory nightshade. Damn. Yeah. So even like tomato sauce, like in pizza? Even tomato sauce. Wow. So what's our most popular food? Probably pizza. Inflammatory nightshade high in beta carotene tomato. Cheese, vitamin A. A lot of times it's BS cheese too.
And then a lot of times it's glyphosate flour. Glyphosate slows down the ADH and ALDH detox pathways. These are the pathways that help you eliminate vitamin A from your body. These are also the detox pathways that detox and metabolize alcohol. So the same thing your body uses to get rid of a night of drinking is the same thing your body uses to get rid of vitamin A. How is that a vitamin?
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Chapter 8: How does modern medicine overlook vitamin A toxicity?
And it's just another way coffee, what it causes is slows down detox.
And we were taught dark chocolate is good for you. And now they're finding all these heavy metals.
It's another thing. Another superfood by these bio. Dark chocolate is promoted to us by guys like Brian Johnson. Guys like, I don't know if Asprey does it. But the truth of the matter is majority consumer reports tested 28 different dark chocolate brands. All of them tested for cadmium and lead. Every single one of them. Um, there was another study done. I think it was PubMed, 300 different foods.
Chocolate was top three behind baking soda and cacao powder for lead. Wow. Not only that, chocolate is high in copper. Copper is an estrogenic toxic metal that we're also seeing in blood and hair. A lot of people are toxic in copper. Crazy. That's causing insomnia. That's causing racing thoughts. That's causing... Unnecessary weight gain.
Copper is a nasty metal that is out of balance in a lot of people. That's why I say, hey, people eat chocolate because it has this chemical in it. Phenethylamine, that is the love hormone, the love chemical that release when people are in love. So this is why they sell it to us on Valentine's Day. This is why women, chocolate makes me feel better. So it's a drug effect. Right.
And this is why people crave it. And if you're craving something and if you feel like crap without something, that's a pretty big indicator that like I don't like becoming dependent on stuff, you know. So when I found myself like if you have the T-shirt on, like don't talk to me till I've had my coffee. You have a problem. I've seen those.
And if you need coffee or caffeine to go lift weights, you're handicapped. Right. You're using a crutch. So my whole thing is like, let's get to the point where you feel amazing, reverse the adrenal fatigue, fix your liver, fix your adrenaline hormones, epinephrine and norepinephrine. And then once in a while, it's like, yeah, you can enjoy a coffee as a treat.
But when you're drinking three a day to get through it, that's a problem.
Yeah, it's taxing you. You mentioned baking soda earlier. A lot of people wash their fruits with that.
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