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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Ditting It Out with Gary O'Hanlon and Gareth Mullins. A Go Loud original podcast. Your ultimate culinary companion. Go Loud. Sounds better with us. Welcome to another episode of Dishing It Out with me, Gary O'Hanlon. And me, Gareth Mullins.
And coming up on today's show, we've got the brilliant Ciarán Cavanagh from John Cavanagh, the Gravediggers, one of the most famous pubs in the country, guys. The famous Coddle, it's as if it was created there.
Yeah, yeah, and he's had some big people in there eating. I know you, as we'll say it to him, but I know Marco stood us up to go there today. Yeah, Marco stood us up going to beer. So we give him a bit of stick about that. And then he famously had Anthony Bourdain in, so I'm sure he's met him.
Yeah, he has, yeah, for sure. Like Bourdain, I think, changed the game there. Like, I mean, look, he was always busy and doing well or whatever, but I'm pretty sure... I'm sure it brought that international guest. Sure, that's what Bourdain done everywhere he went, you know. We'll have our Nespresso Professional Dish of the Week and our Culinary Conundrums, which we love. Don't go anywhere.
Thank you.
Okay, joining us now on Dishing It Out is a great chef and good pal, Ciarán Cavanagh from John Cavanagh, The Gravediggers. Great to have you here, brother. Thanks, lads. You're very welcome. We've had to cancel this one two or three times with all the blockades and everything else, but great to finally be here and have you in, mate.
It wasn't the two Dublin lads that were struggling to get the studios.
No, no, no.
It's the colchie. Just the colchie that has to come.
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Chapter 2: What is the story behind John Kavanagh’s, The Gravediggers?
It was unbelievable, man. Like the flavor, the cooking. And obviously there's pint tours going around Dublin as well. But is it food now that's attracting people to the bar? You went on to the States then, but did you...
No, the Bahamas. After the Bahamas, I went to Italy. I did eight years in Italy. Okay. You fly to Bologna, it's on the coast.
How long in Italy? Eight years?
Eight years, yeah. First four seasons, I did just a summer in a hotel as a head chef and I wintered in Dublin, either in the pub or I worked for agencies. Yeah. And then... I went back, I was full-time head chef in a restaurant in a small town called Chervia. And it was not in Tuscany, it was the next province, so it's Tuscan Emiliano kind of food.
And I was lucky enough that I worked with a lot of older chefs who did old dishes, a lot of women chefs who did a lot of old dishes, like rabbits and their own pastas and stuff like that.
It was very regional to cook. Yeah, it is really. That's what I was just going to say. I mean, Italy's famous for being so regional. Obviously, if somebody's guiding you there, because you can't really just roll into a place like that and start pulling out your own gear and doing whatever.
Well, the mad thing was when I got there back in 2000, a mad cow hit. And the restaurant I was working in was T-bone steaks, like Fiorentina, and a lot of beef dishes. And we just had to scrap it all. And I found all the game and all that.
And that was more in Ireland than the UK? Oh, it was everywhere. It was all Europe.
Was it? Yeah, and then we were getting in, we were getting in bison, we were getting buffalo in, we were cooking everything. A lot of rabbit.
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Chapter 3: How did Ciaran Kavanagh's culinary journey shape his cooking style?
My parents took over in 1973 and my dad was a sixth generation. My mum's still alive, she's 84 and very much involved in the pub.
Still?
Yeah, yeah. Sweeps outside every morning at half seven.
Really?
Yeah, it's amazing. She's from Yorkshire originally, so she's tough. and a great cook and I got a lot of my inspiration from her and especially baking stuff.
And is she opinionated about the menu? She loves it. I knew the answer to that question.
Yeah, she actually says she doesn't like going out because she likes my food. So it's a really nice compliment.
That's the biggest compliment you could ever receive.
She says I make a better Yorkshire pudding and she said that in front of Marco Pierre White which I thought was cool.
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Chapter 4: What makes the coddle dish so special in Dublin culture?
That fueled it as well. You couldn't get anything. You couldn't get a pint of Guinness in your local. And that's not just the liquid you're drinking. It's the whole experience of it. how you pull it, how it serves, and the banter and stuff like that. You can't replicate that. So for nearly three years, I couldn't get that. And then it was restricted how you got it.
And I was like, I want another point. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so that kind of gave it another kind of resurrection, let's call it. And it just took off.
And now it's... People want what they can't have as well.
Yeah, yeah.
In an indirect way, it probably brought it.
Yeah, and I think... The ritual of... I've never really thought about that, but the ritual of appointing Guinness is a... Oh, it's unique. It's a beautiful thing, isn't it?
You know, you have to wait for it. And like, you know, the iconic Addy guy dancing in front of the point. It's pretty much just going on everybody's head.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think anyway. Well, it is now after you say that.
But in a place like ours, we'll always be pulling points. It's always like a line of Guinness. And I always say to people, if you go into a bar and everybody's drinking Guinness, drink Guinness. If they're not drinking Guinness, don't bother. Don't be the first.
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Chapter 5: How did Anthony Bourdain's visit impact The Gravediggers?
You're like, all right, well, they got to cook for a certain length of time. Spuds, the first batch is irrelevant because you want them to break down or whatever. But it's that next wave going in then where, all right, well, the bacon's still not there, but it's, by the time these spuds are done, I've never given as much time.
Cause that was the first time I made it was whenever you give me your recipe and Stevie, like he's obviously, he, he drops in.
He drops in. Yeah. Does he? Yeah. And I always go to the grave diggers. Yeah.
And that's a, that's a nod because I've never seen him more animated than when it came to coddle. He's over and he goes, what's in that? My ma wouldn't put that in there.
Do you know what I mean?
I was like, you know, the fucking grave diggers, coddle boy, you know what I mean? But I've never given as much time to a dish before. And then I realized if you don't give it the time, it's destroyed. It doesn't work. Yeah.
That's why a lot of people find it easier to put rashers in it. It's cheaper, it's easier. But the ribs just give you that flavor and there's no need for extra salt.
But then you have all sorts of influencers and all sorts coming in too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, never mind.
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Chapter 6: How has the drinking culture in Ireland changed over the years?
Is it because it's so famous now, it's tours? It's huge. You probably get coaches just pulling in for a pint and leaving or is it smaller or what?
It's too small for that kind of, they've tried it in the past and it doesn't really work for the coaches more than anything else. We do have some mini tours that come to us. There's the Gravedigger's Ghostbusters tour that's been going for like 15 years now, I think. Okay. And that's late at night. They just come in and have a drink and leave. And then there's the Perfect Pint tour.
That's right, the Perfect Pint tour. I had Steve Carell in with them a couple of weeks ago, a couple of months ago. That was lovely. Saw that actually. Yeah, it was pretty cool. And Dita Von Teese as well with them. She was great. She'd never had a Guinness before. So she had her first one with us. She didn't like it. Nobody's perfect, I suppose.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was good. Your first Guinness was like... Yeah, you got to get to know it.
You got to get to know it. It's not the drink where you go, oh my God, it's been on with it. You have to get into it.
So we're very lucky. There's still a lot of locals. You know, you walk in there, you know, on a Tuesday, I'd probably know 80% of people and the rest are tourists coming and going. And how many seats is anything? Oh, Nicky said it's like a bus, 45 people or something. It's tiny. There's no stools. There's mostly stand. There's like three sections in the bar and there's like six tables. That's it.
Benches.
And it's very much, I'd say, like nerdiest. Is it all from the original bar?
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