'FLOWER BOY' by Tyler The Creator | Last Song Standing (E3)
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What is Last Song Standing and why are Cole and Charles debating Tyler, the Creator's catalog?
Welcome everyone to Last Song Standing.
I'm Cole Kushner. And I'm Charles Holmes. And in this fifth season of Last Song Standing, Cole and I are debating our way through Tyler, the Creator's entire catalog in order to crown the greatest Tyler, the Creator song of all time.
Last episode, we debated Wolf and Cherry Bomb. And today we tackle Tyler's most pivotal album, 2017's Flower Boy.
i can only see your face when i close my eyes snakes in the grass but i'll walk i got some new boots on the back so can we go back to november take me back to november that is what i was hiding that was real love i was in yo how are you feeling it's been a couple weeks how's your life going you're
By the time this is out, I'm assuming what you're working on right now will be out. How are you feeling? You got some exciting stuff on the horizon.
Oh, yeah. I'm about to film a very exciting interview tomorrow at the time of this recording. So people will know what that is very soon, if not already. And I've been deep in my anime bag. You're going to be very proud of me. You have set me off on the most beautiful, heartwarming journey ever. studio i am a becoming a studio ghibli like whatever dweeb weeb weeb the weeb is the i'm getting there i know like probably studio ghibli is like the normie basic shit but like here's ponyo tell the listeners ponyo might be in my like top 10 favorite movies of all time your daughters were fucking with ponyo yeah so studio ghibli is having like a this is turning an anime podcast um They're having like a theatrical re-release, like festival.
Yeah. And so they just happened to be showing Ponyo in Sacramento. Took my kids. My seven-year-old daughter like cried during Ponyo. Her first movie she cried to was at Ponyo. What was the scene that got her? Well, when the girl loses her mom. Dude. Talk about- Seeing your daughter cry is a whole different... But then, Bonio, everybody's good by the end. Yeah. It's such a beautiful movie. Oh, my God. So, we'll talk about it in the cultural exchange. But that's been my life. Tyler, the creator, and Studio Ghibli, basically.
Honestly, we'll talk about it in the cultural exchange. I'm going down a spiritual path. And it's so funny. Everybody in my life is like, yo, Charles, what are you reading there? I'm just like... I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm going through like a... a journey, a spiritual journey. They're like, oh, you're going back to church. I'm like, no, no organized religion. This is what I would call unorganized religion, searching, studying. You're helping me create the syllabus.
Yeah. I just read this. We could maybe cut this. Did you know Rick Rubin has a vibe coding version of the Tao Te Ching? Rick Rubin's... Maybe that's a topic for another podcast.
You know, it was like, I was about to get full charge, and I was like, Rick Rubin's a legend. I have nothing to say. Go reboot Riley on this.
All right, so let's jump into our list so far, because we have... We made some good headway in the first two episodes. We covered four albums. It was a lot to cover, but I feel good where we're at. Yes, all right.
So I have French, Yonkers, Bimmer... Buffalo. And based off how this episode might go, I'm forecasting. I'm starting to realize I might be a basic bitch of Tyler, the creator phantom, where it's like the songs that I like songs that everyone does.
That's kind of your, your role on this show. Hey, I'm for the people, you know what I'm saying? And I'm for the deep cut, you know, the real, give me the hits. Yeah. Okay. So I got bastard title track. She answer. And Cherry Bomb title track. The Cherry Bomb title track might be a controversial pick.
I understand that. I was listening to it today. I love the title track. I wish I would have picked it.
It's so good, but I think I'm going to get a lot of shit for not. Kaga, Find Your Wings. There's some beloved songs on there.
Cherry Bomb is the one. It's also funny. I'm so excited that people are listening, but seeing the comments, I am very... it's very funny how they're just different generations of kind of the creator fans where they're like, you have to pick this song.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is Last Song Standing and why are Cole and Charles debating Tyler, the Creator's catalog?
0:11–13:39
2
How did Flower Boy mark a turning point after Cherry Bomb and what was Tyler's mindset?
13:39–1:06:11
3
Why do the hosts say 'See You Again' marked a turning point for Tyler's career?
1:06:11–1:13:30
4
How did Tyler transform samples into the beat for 'I Ain't Got Time' and who was first offered the track?
1:13:30–1:28:50
5
Which Flower Boy songs do the hosts debate as most essential to Tyler's trajectory (Garden Shed vs. See You Again)?
1:28:50–1:49:42
6
What cultural exchanges influenced the hosts' perspectives after re-listening to Flower Boy (Miyazaki, Dao De Jing, digital detox)?
1:49:42–2:05:21