Honda Scenic Audio set out to describe the view from a car window for blind and visually impaired passengers, using computer vision and generative AI. Steven Scott and Shaun Preece revisit their 2024 conversation about the app, built with Perkins School for the Blind, and ask whether poetic AI scenery description is something blind people actually want.This episode is supported by Pneuma Solutions. Creators of accessible tools like Remote Incident Manager and Scribe. Find out more at https://pneumasolutions.com/Honda announced Scenic Audio in April 2024 as a beta. You hold your phone to the window, it works in any car, and it narrates the passing landscape in storytelling language instead of practical directions. Steven thinks back to a Rocky Mountaineer train journey from Banff to Vancouver where he'd have loved more description. Shaun wonders what it would make of an ordinary drive through town.Shaun's bigger question is whether true real-time description exists yet. Steven points to the Be My Eyes demo of GPT-4o describing ducks on a pond, and argues this app sits alongside tools like Be My AI and Google Lookout.Phil Hruska of Honda explains how the project grew out of Honda's focus on inclusivity, with guidance from Dr. Josh Loebner, who is blind himself, on involving disabled people from the start. Sandy Lacey of the Howe Innovation Center describes interviews with around 30 blind and low vision people, and why testers enjoyed details they hadn't realised they were missing. The Alabama Institute for Deaf and Blind and Honda's Enable associate group also took part in beta testing.Honda's R&D history comes up too, from ASIMO to office chairs that move out of your way, along with Shaun's wish for self-driving wheelie bins. Back in 2026, the hosts reflect on how much AI tools have changed since this was recorded.Chapters0:00 – Welcome and a classic from the archive2:38 – Honda Scenic Audio explained3:51 – Honda's launch video5:27 – Would you use it? Scenic trips and everyday drives8:12 – Real-time description and the Be My Eyes GPT-4o comparison11:54 – The Honda and Perkins partnership with Phil Hruska16:07 – Listening to blind users and Honda's R&D projects19:56 – What testers said about the app22:46 – The verdict: Honda Cynic25:43 – Looking back from 2026Relevant LinksPneuma Solutions: https://www.pneumasolutions.comBe My Eyes: https://www.bemyeyes.comLookout by Google: https://support.google.com/accessibility/android/answer/9031274 ----Follow on:YouTube: https://www.doubletaponair.com/youtubeX (formerly Twitter): https://www.doubletaponair.com/xInstagram: https://www.doubletaponair.com/instagramTikTok: https://www.doubletaponair.com/tiktokThreads: https://www.doubletaponair.com/threadsFacebook: https://www.doubletaponair.com/facebookLinkedIn: https://www.doubletaponair.com/linkedinSubscribe to the Podcast:Apple: https://www.doubletaponair.com/appleSpotify: https://www.doubletaponair.com/spotifyRSS: https://www.doubletaponair.com/podcastiHeadRadio: https://www.doubletaponair.com/iheartAbout Double TapHosted by the insightful duo, Steven Scott and Shaun Preece, Double Tap is a treasure trove of information for anyone who's blind or partially sighted and has a passion for tech. Steven and Shaun not only demystify tech, but they also regularly feature interviews and welcome guests from the community, fostering an interactive and engaging environment. Tune in every day of the week, and you'll discover how technology can seamlessly integrate into your life, enhancing daily tasks and experiences, even if your sight is limited."Double Tap" is a registered trademark of Double Tap Productions Inc. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Ask this episode

“What did the council decide on item 42?” — answered with the speaker and the moment.

Transcript

Related