Rugby Roundtable: Ardie Savea’s Next Move And All Blacks 10 Debate

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John Day 0:00
Lachlan is in my area saying, can you check that John has still got a brain inside that skull? Because he said with the Hurricanes at actual full strength, he said the Chiefs at full strength, you can't tell me that the Crusaders side, this is what he's saying, is actually better than those sides.
Mark Watson 0:12
He's not my guy. He's off contract at the end of this year. But no, he's not my guy because when you do have injuries, a good coach can find a way. They were 19-0 up against the force. A good coach wins that game.
Devlin 0:25
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John Day 0:46
It's that time again, it's the Rugby Roundtable time again. John Day joins me, 20 years in the saddle. The voice of reason. the hurt locker, the razor blades, the peeing blood from your eyeballs back at school today, Mr. Watson. Before we start, 2.30, Loft Bar Christchurch this Saturday. Myself and Lachlan are going to be down there and want you to join us. If you love the DSPN, support us. Thank you. We want to say that thank you by shouting you a couple of beers. Loft Bar, 2.30 on Saturday. We have a lot to get through here, lads, so let's not muck around. We want to talk about where does Ardy go next in terms of Super Rugby? Whitney Hanson, is that a seismic change in the way that the Black Ferns are going to play and the future of the Black Ferns after dismantling Canada, which we couldn't do last year?
John Day 1:30
Riley Higgins, and much wailing and angst and gnashing of teeth about the fact that this guy is leaving. The whole letting New Zealand players play overseas. We've had a lot of comments after speaking with Ted and with Brent to be last week. Auckland is not a league town anymore. You said that last week, Mark. We're going to debate that as well. And if we can have time, I want to touch on the Chiefs and the Canes and just what... that match means to both of you in terms of the intensity of it, in terms of preparation for test level. If we get matches like that, is it going to be good enough for Dave Rennie and his crew to get these parts? But let's start straight away with the Riley Higgins thing, because just uppermost of mind at the moment.
John Day 2:08
A couple of thoughts on this before I ask you, Mark. I get what people are saying. It's a shame when yet another young player goes. But I think that this guy, no disrespect to him, is largely unproven in New Zealand. He's had a few games. He's got a lot of potential. He got injured. I don't know what New Zealand rugby is meant to do here. He's got Scottish ancestry, so clearly he has a pathway to play for Scotland and doesn't have to sit a three-year stand-down down because he hasn't played for New Zealand. He could go and actually, if he impresses, play straight away. It's a bit like Satutu who can now play for England. So there's that to add as well. And also, what are the Super Rugby sides meant to do?
John Day 2:41
Guarantee this guy a spot because he's got lots of potential? There's only so many places available. If you can't shift the guy that's the incumbent in there, you do your very best to keep doing that. What is the answer here in terms of players like him?
Devlin 2:53
Sure, there is an answer. Look, at the end of the day, Riley Higgins clearly doesn't want to be an All Black to the, you know, desperate enough to be an All Black. If you want to be an All Black, you hang around, you do everything you can, you find a way, you shift franchises, you do what you've got to do. A champion will always find a way of becoming a champion no matter what. And you find this out when you're put in an adverse situation. But in saying that too, you know, again, he might just feel, look, I want to play international rugby. I want to play Six Nations. I've got an opportunity here to earn a lot more money at a young age. And that's always going to be the case for some people. You know, I always say this when it comes to agents and stuff at a young age.

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