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everybody has a secret

what happened after his sexist rant...

04 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What happened at the Australian Audio Awards?

0.031 - 26.693 Charlotte White

Okay, so we lost. Oh, my God. I got straight in with it. I thought we could just be honest from the get-go. What did we lose? For those who didn't see us spamming the Instagram feed, last was it Thursday night? Yeah. We were at the Australian Audio Awards in Sydney. The Shameless podcast team and the Everybody Has a Secret team were both there. We were both nominated for separate categories.

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26.713 - 51.537 Charlotte White

We were so excited. We were so excited. And we weren't expecting to win. No, we didn't think we had it in the bag. But. But we had hope. We had lots of hope. A healthy amount of hope. And so much so that we did do like a story takeover and we were spamming. Like we were literally spamming so much. Yeah. And then we were in the stands. We were in the stands. So picture this, Shushies.

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51.517 - 69.729 Charlotte White

It's sort of an auditorium type situation at these awards ceremonies. At this specific one, we were kind of watching on. It felt like we were in a movie vibes. And then when they started announcing our category, none of us really said anything to each other, but we all kind of like put our bags down, fixed our hair.

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69.809 - 72.632 Charlotte White

Put our lippy on, and then we all held hands.

Chapter 2: How did Belly witness a public breakup?

72.712 - 96.176 Charlotte White

Yes, I was filming on my phone as well. Charlotte was filming. I was so sure. I was like, this is our moment. But, like, huge congratulations to SBS's Comedy Karma. Yeah, congrats. Honestly, like, well done. Well deserved. It is just the most chungus, most ehass thing to have happened to us. We never actually spoke about what would happen if we did lose and how to be humble about it.

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96.236 - 117.98 Charlotte White

And, like, well done to the winner. Of course. Yes. Because our faces, if there was a camera there, there wasn't. But if it was like Oscars vibes and they panned to the losers, we're going to recreate it. We'll recreate it. I fell. I fell. I bought a new suit for these awards. Yeah. Like, I spent money anyway. But that's okay. It's a learning lesson for us. And hey, privileged to be nominated.

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118.02 - 126.85 Charlotte White

Correct. Absolutely. And it's all about the journey. We had a really fun time there. We did.

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129.057 - 131.271 Ruby Hall

Thank you.

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Chapter 3: What are the dynamics of public arguments?

141.258 - 152.82 Charlotte White

Hello. Again with that three-part harmony. Hello and welcome back to Everybody Has a Secret. My name is Charlotte White. And what's up, Annabelle Lee?

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Not much. What's up, Ruby Hall? Not much at all. Happy Thursday, our recording day. I'm like full of beans. Full of beans.

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159.332 - 160.635 Charlotte White

Happy Friday for the listeners.

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160.655 - 161.116 Unknown

Yeah, true.

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161.677 - 180.158 Charlotte White

What does full of beans mean? I don't actually know. It does mean like energised. Yeah. Oh, okay. Maybe it's like coffee beans. I've got no clue. Right. Okay. Well, before we get into today's episode, a quick shout out to our sponsor, Don't Muck With A Truck. Driving near trucks doesn't have to be scary. Stay safe by giving them heaps of space on the road. So important.

180.218 - 181.279 Annabelle Lee

It is. So important.

181.339 - 183.101 Charlotte White

Nobody talks about it enough. So, Belly.

Chapter 4: How can you handle a friend's sexist comments?

183.301 - 206.373 Charlotte White

Yeah. You've got a little story to tell, do you not? I do. So, as we said earlier, we were in Sydney last week. We were. We were. For a hot minute, just for about a day. Yeah. This time last week, on Friday morning, I went to a cafe on my own to do a shameless podcast edit. Was locked in. So main character of you, by the way. I was really trying. Yeah.

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206.393 - 230.627 Charlotte White

I was locked into my headphones, going about my day, and then all of a sudden, I look up, because no one else was in this cafe, and I don't like busy people. No. So I specifically chose this cafe. But I was there, I look up and I see a couple having a really intense discussion. Right. They, well actually initially when I first look up they're not talking.

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230.947 - 249.83 Charlotte White

They're just looking at each other, into each other's eyes, looking very sad and staring into each other's souls. And I'm going, okay, pop one ear out, try and see what's going on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I end up hearing the most devastating conversation about the end of their relationship. Oh, no. A breakup. A breakup.

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250.151 - 257.719 Charlotte White

The only words I could make out because they were speaking pretty quietly and also I was like, oh, I don't want to seem like I'm listening. Yeah. God forbid. But I really was.

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Chapter 5: What does it mean if your partner is jealous of your success?

257.819 - 264.186 Charlotte White

Yeah. I could make out one of their lips saying, I love you so much, but I just can't be your wife anymore.

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265.087 - 292.057 Charlotte White

Married. Married. So this is a divorce conversation. Potentially. And I was like, oh, shit. And what made it worse is that the first one of the first things after I thought that's incredibly devastating was I wonder if there is. An EHAS discussion in biz. Oh, my Lord. Of course. That's when you know. That's when you know you've sold your soul to the damned. Because I was like, I am scum.

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292.077 - 307.143 Charlotte White

I was like, what is happening? She pulls her earphone back. Is this content I hear? And I was like, oh, my God. I almost immediately put my headphones back on, finished what I was doing, finished my meal and left them to their piece. Yes, of course. Less privacy they deserve. Their privacy, exactly.

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307.203 - 326.15 Charlotte White

And then I also didn't tell you guys in the moment because I was like, I think I just need to give them space, give them all space. But then eventually I brought it to one of our content whips and I was like, this happened. Yeah. I would love to know if anyone else has had, well, probably, yeah, intense public fights like this. and the story behind it. Yes.

326.25 - 329.816 Charlotte White

So we did a call out on our socials asking people about that.

Chapter 6: How do you navigate difficult conversations with friends?

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And how did we go? We went well. There were some, yeah, interesting fights that came through and some funny hee-haw ones as well that I think you guys and the Ehass community will really like.

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339.873 - 361.697 Charlotte White

Just quickly before we do that, though, would you say that you're an eavesdropper? Yes. I would say you're an eavesdropper. 100%. I think we all are. I think we all sing. We all eavesdrop. I definitely do. Any chance I get. I'm like ear to the door kind of girl. Yeah. I definitely am when I'm alone and in public spaces. Because what else are you going to do? Be alone with your thoughts?

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361.778 - 381.452 Charlotte White

No, I'm going to be intrusive. Also, knowledge is power. Knowledge is power. Understanding others and the dynamics between them, that's important. Yeah. That's society. And if they're talking about you, even better. Exactly. Exactly. Have you guys ever... Twofold question. Firstly, have you ever had a public fight? Define public. Or an argument, sorry.

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Chapter 7: What advice is given for handling public fights?

381.472 - 404.118 Charlotte White

It could be an argument. It could be not like a brawl I'm talking about, just like a discussion argument, heated argument vibes in public. Does there have to be people around? At least one person. It could be main road, but no one's around. So is it public? Yes, that counts. Okay, sorry. I always ask for so many details on hypotheticals. Important. Yes, no, I have. Many, many actually.

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404.158 - 407.062 Charlotte White

They will come up, I'm sure.

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407.662 - 408.403 Unknown

I'm sure, I'm sure.

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408.423 - 409.184 Charlotte White

And what about you, Ruth?

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409.465 - 419.258 Unknown

Yeah, I actually, when I got out of my long-term relationship, bless this ex, he comes up in so many episodes. I just want to preface this by saying there's no hate there.

420.219 - 423.784 Charlotte White

All the best for him. Honestly, I thought you were talking about different exes this whole time.

424.264 - 425.706 Unknown

Oh, okay. No!

425.686 - 430.45 Charlotte White

To confirm, it's the same guy. Guys, listen back and put the story together.

430.53 - 447.225 Unknown

But like, you know, yeah, honestly, it's only love now. But this is quite funny. We met up at a public lake near our house where we had many memories around. We'd walk around it. We'd run around it. It was like, it's actually one of my favorite lakes. I'm really just giving away so many details to talk about an internet bill because we needed to sort it out.

Chapter 8: When should you consider ending a relationship?

447.245 - 459.401 Unknown

And that's where we decided to meet after we broke up. And I was like, why the actual fuck are we here? This is so funny. It wasn't an argument, but it was like a weird heated breakup chat. About the internet bill. Yeah, and the bill was in front of us on this, like, bench. What?

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459.842 - 483.969 Charlotte White

Dude, that's, I mean, you need to bring the evidence. Are people, like, can you, like, hire a boat and, like, paddle on the lake? Like, are people, like, whoa, like, eavesdropping from the lake? Who knows? I have actually been through something similar. I went through a breakup in a public park and it was an active decision to go public. So he was living with housemates and I had driven.

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484.029 - 502.66 Charlotte White

He kind of lived far. Yeah. And of course I drove far to have this conversation. Oh, God. I don't know. Such a reflective journey as well. The car journey. Yeah. Oh, my God. The car ride back home. Traumatizing. Chunga. Chunga's vibes. And, like, again, no shade, no tea. Yeah.

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502.82 - 520.067 Charlotte White

Because, like, I feel healthy and comfortable talking about this at the moment because it's like, oh, you look back fondly. Absolutely. What a funny story. Absolutely. But I did drive, like, almost two hours to have this conversation after he told me that he wanted to break up over the phone. And then I was like, oh, I'm going to need an in-person discussion. And he was like, I'm super busy.

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520.127 - 547.062 Charlotte White

And then I was like, I'll drive to you. Oh, my God. Essentially, my POV was, please stay with me in the conversation in the park. And he was like, nah. And then we had this talk in the park. People were walking by. It was chungus. It's so common, I think, isn't it? So common. Yeah, I've had a pretty bad argument at like a – nightclubby pub situation. Nightclub, oh no.

547.082 - 572.641 Charlotte White

Like just downstairs and the poor bouncer was just like, these girls are fucking nuts. And there was like music blaring in the background screaming at each other, not good, not good. Well, I'm sure we'll hear more stories similar to these ones right afterward from today's sponsor. Shushies, it's totally normal to feel a little stressed when we find ourselves next to a huge truck on the road.

572.741 - 583.317 Charlotte White

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