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Excess Returns

Finding Decade-Long Compounders with Joseph Shaposhnik

22 Sep 2025

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In this episode of Excess Returns, we sit down with Joseph Shaposhnik, founder of Rainwater Equity and former star portfolio manager at TCW. Joseph shares the investment philosophy that drove his track record of outperformance, why he focuses on recurring revenue businesses, and how he evaluates management quality and capital allocation. We also explore lessons from great investors like Warren Buffett, Bill Miller, and Peter Lynch, along with insights on valuation, portfolio concentration, and the role of passive investing in today’s markets.Main topics covered:How Joseph achieved long-term outperformance at TCW and what drove his resultsWhy recurring revenue and predictable cash flows are central to his approachThe importance of management quality and identifying “fanatics” vs. mercenariesLessons investors should and should not take from Warren BuffettBill Miller’s influence and backing of Rainwater EquityCharacteristics Joseph looks for in great businesses and red flags in management teamsPortfolio concentration, position sizing, and risk managementWhy you don’t need to have an opinion on every sectorSelling discipline and knowing when it’s time to move onHow valuation fits into his framework and how he thinks about paying up for qualityThe impact of passive investing and why active managers must take a long-term viewStories and lessons from Peter Lynch, including his enduring influenceTimestamps:0:00 If a stock has doubled, you haven’t missed it1:00 Introduction and Joseph’s track record at TCW2:00 Keys to long-term outperformance8:00 Lessons from Warren Buffett’s wins and mistakes11:30 Bill Miller’s influence and support for Rainwater Equity14:00 What defines a high-quality business20:00 Free cash flow compounding and moats24:00 Red flags in management teams31:00 Why active management is broken and Joseph’s solution35:00 Portfolio concentration and risk management42:00 Sectors to avoid and why47:00 Joseph’s selling discipline53:00 Exceptional leaders and the role of management quality58:00 Valuation, future value, and the changing economy1:04:00 Passive investing and market distortions1:09:00 Lessons and stories from Peter Lynch1:14:00 Closing questions and key investing lessons1:20:00 Where to learn more about Joseph and Rainwater Equity

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