411: Ask David: What’s Self-Esteem? What’s Self-Acceptance? Do We "Need" Them?

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Dr. Rhonda Barofsky 0:07
Hello, and welcome to the Feeling Good Podcast, where you can learn powerful techniques to change the way you feel. I am your host, Dr. Rhonda Barofsky, and joining me here in the Murrieta studio is Dr. David Burns. Dr. Burns is a pioneer in the development of cognitive behavioral therapy and the creator of the new Team Therapy. He's the author of Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States and has been translated into over 30 languages. His latest book, Feeling Great, contains powerful new techniques that make rapid recovery possible for many people struggling with depression and anxiety. Dr. Burns is currently an emeritus adjunct professor of clinical psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine. Oh, how subdued. Hello, David, and welcome to our listeners around the world and throughout the galaxy. This is the Feeling Good podcast, and it is episode 411. In addition to our wonderful Matt May, we have two very special guests, Heather Klage and Brandon Vance.
Dr. Rhonda Barofsky 1:14
Heather and Brandon are going to be facilitating an app group to support the app, people using the app, and we want to give them the opportunity to describe it and talk about it and David, have you described whatever it is that you want and you expect Heather and Brandon to be doing in the group?
Dr. David Burns 1:30
Well, the first thing I think we should remind them that's going to be the Feeling Great app that we'll be working on. And Brandon and Heather, you guys are geniuses at running large book groups. And now the Feeling Great app group, it's going to be amazing. And the Feeling Good or the Feeling Great app is the kind of AI powered app. Feeling Great Therapy, similar to the book Feeling Great. And a lot of people, in addition to using an app and getting really rapid changes in how you think and feel, like to connect with others and have people to schmooze with and ask questions and practice with. And Brandon and Heather have an amazing way of talking about it. And we'll do that now. And I will shut up.
Heather Clague 2:37
Well, we are really excited about this. Brandon started the Feeling Great Book Club, yay, many years ago. And then I had the privilege of joining him as the co-leader a few years ago. And that's been really powerful. You know, I... It's great for people to it's accountability to do it and they form connections and they can ask questions. And then the small groups, which we now have facilitated by volunteers, people really gel. And there's even been some groups that have continued to meet after the book club was over. And so, yeah, we're thrilled that the app is out now because I think it'll be the perfect companion to the app. And I'll turn it over to Brandon.
Dr. Brandon Vance 3:21
Yeah, such an effective and efficient and enjoyable app to use. And so it's just really exciting to be able to support people in using that and then working on these tools for anxiety and depression and coming together. And so Heather and I have found that there's such a power in groups and people coming together, supporting each other, hearing each other's experience while they're working through something like initially the book clubs. working through David's book, Feeling Great, but now with the app. And so we'll have 10 weeks of groups and we're structuring it around the different lessons that are in the app. And then during that, people can also be using this fantastic AI chatbot, which is like a really great therapist, a really efficient and wonderful therapist following the team model. And so this starts September 23rd, goes on for 10 weeks.
Dr. Rhonda Barofsky 4:16
No, it's actually eight weeks.
Dr. Brandon Vance 4:18
Oh, I'm sorry. It's eight weeks at 4 p.m. Pacific time. And so... So there's an ability during those eight weeks to meet as a large group and have demonstrations and ask questions from Heather and I. And then to break out into small, more intimate groups to get help from each other. We'll have questions that structure those smaller groups so that people can really dive deep into the different topics that are discussed and sometimes practice activities as well in those small groups. And then we come back into the big group to summarize things and ask other questions from Heather and I. That's really, really fun. I've been loving doing that, loving working with Heather.

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