431: Screen Addictions, Featuring Brandon Vance, MD
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Hello, and welcome to the Feeling Good Podcast, where you can learn powerful techniques to change the way you feel. I am your host, Dr. Rhonda Borowski, and joining me here in the Murrieta studio is Dr. David Burns. Dr. Burns is a pioneer in the development of cognitive behavioral therapy and the creator of the new Team Therapy. He's the author of Feeling Good, which has sold over 5 million copies in the United States and has been translated into over 30 languages. His latest book, Feeling Great, contains powerful new techniques that make rapid recovery possible for many people struggling with depression and anxiety. Dr. Burns is currently an emeritus adjunct professor of clinical psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine. Hello, David, and welcome to all of our listeners around the country and the world and throughout the galaxy. This is the Feeling Good podcast in episode 431. And that third voice you heard is Brandon Vance, who is a very beloved Team CBT psychiatrist.
He's the founder of the Feeling Great Book Club. He also does lots and lots of team-related educational groups like the Book Club and the app group, and you do five secrets practice. Yeah, those are awesome.
I would say a pioneer in new ways of developing mental health to people in need and getting away from this traditional 50-minute hour once a week where you go and talk to one person and it goes on and on. And it's more like working with a group of people based on reading a book like Feeling Great or Feeling Good or using the app or something else and meeting weekly for kind of like 80-minute inexpensive sessions to learn about the to practice techniques, to connect with other people who were struggling with some of the same things. And it's very exciting because it's thinking outside of the box and thinking about new and more fun and more effective ways of being successful. helpful to people and community and creating a sense of community at the same time, instead of a sense of isolation where you go and you sneak into the shrink's office and lie on the couch for 50 minutes and hope nobody knows you're there and stuff like that.
Nice. So much, David. That was so nice.
Yeah.
You've really inspired me because you lay out things in such a clear way and such an accessible way. And I know you all have talked before about just reading, feeling good, that there have been studies on that as being very helpful in terms of depression. And I've also found that groups and the pandemic also inspired me with that, that coming together in groups of people has all those added benefits of community and of support and even an accountability. So that's been very fulfilling to run some groups.
Yeah, not only accountability that they get in the groups for following through on homework and doing what you have to do to change, but also I'm seeing more and more that, you know, why have so many religions sprung up? Well, because people want something to believe in, to give meaning to your life, but they also want to have a community of people to relate to through your local Lutheran church or synagogue or church. you know, whatever, people are kind of craving the connection with other people. It's kind of a boring thing to say, I guess, but it's been occurring to me a lot that people really want this. They want some kind of structure, social structure, that they can get together with similar people with similar beliefs and connect and learn and grow and And share and be vulnerable and open and get close to people and not have to be... Taking it all the time.
You guys, before we dive in, do you mind if I read an endorsement? Because it is also about a group. And this woman, Anandi Gray, who's a licensed professional counselor, wrote, Hi, Dr. Burns. Just a note about your book, The 10 Days to Self-Esteem. I'm working with a young woman who lives in Eastern Europe, and she bought a digital version, which was the only way she could get it where she lives. She writes the exercises in the e-book and it works really well. Also, although English is not her first language, she mentioned how much she enjoys your humorous, encouraging comments. Thank you for the e-book version of 10 Days to Self-Esteem. It's such a good book, easy to use, super effective. And it was my very first introduction to the wonderful world of Team CBT.
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