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Double Tap 451 – Bananas and Apples

03 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What questions are addressed in the Dear WLS segment?

0.031 - 19.571 Shawn Herron

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20.572 - 36 Jeremy Pazderic

This episode of Double Tap is brought to you by Gideon Optics. Code WLS is life. Primary Arms. Blue Alpha. Ross Martin. Code WLS is life. Otis Technology. Code WeLikeShooting15. Mitchell Defense. Code WLS10.

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36.862 - 46.339 Unknown

I was just going to yell at you, and then I remembered that every time Jeremy numbers his lists in gunfights, you just read the whole thing. And then I decided not to yell at you because I just realized that's the kind of penis head that you are.

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47.872 - 69.49 Unknown

For the fight with our minds on the target We're aiming for the mic, welcome to the double tap Where we deliver the facts that you're in question Stalking time in this street Alright, Double Tap, episode 451. Welcome to the show. We've got your usual crew here. We've got Nick Lynch from Bus Built Systems checking in. Jeremy Pazderic from River's Edge Tactical, Valley City, Ohio.

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69.81 - 82.148 Unknown

You can find them both online, but also if you're a good enough stalker. My name is Sean Herron. Welcome to the show. Glad to have you guys here. Glad to be here. This is the best, the biggest, the boldest, and the most profanity-laced...

82.128 - 101.571 Unknown

gun q a podcast that ever existed it is double tap hi how's it going oh you know not dead yet oh good not dead yet uh are you trying to be uh you know i'm i wouldn't say that i'm actively trying

102.158 - 107.005 Jeremy Pazderic

I'm just open to the possibilities as life brings them to me, you know?

107.466 - 112.093 Unknown

Yeah. Yeah. You're not actively trying, but you're also not really actively trying to prevent.

113.655 - 113.815 Jeremy Pazderic

Yeah.

Chapter 2: How do piston-driven rifles compare to direct impingement systems?

173.998 - 178.446 Unknown

Anyway, that sounds so lame and white that I didn't really think that through.

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179.768 - 183.093 Jeremy Pazderic

Sean, are you looking forward to your grandkids coming to visit you in the nursing home?

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184.155 - 186.509 Unknown

Yeah, I think so. I think so.

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186.589 - 190.489 Savage

In like another three, four years? They can't act a fool at the nursing home.

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190.931 - 194.046 Nick Lynch

Yeah. I grew up in a nursing home.

194.903 - 197.988 Savage

Yeah, that is true. Yeah. That is true. You might die in one, too.

199.25 - 211.311 Nick Lynch

Very likely. No, I know when I'm going to die, and it's not here. It's not in a nursing home. Where's it going to be? I was born in a nursing home. I wasn't born in one. My parents owned one when I was little, and I grew up in the halls of that place.

211.872 - 214.416 Aaron

No, it's too late. The song's already been written.

214.757 - 219.004 Unknown

Can you imagine? Can you just imagine the fucking...

Chapter 3: What are the latest developments in gun industry news?

502.746 - 503.827 Unknown

Do you see it, Jeremy? Look.

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504.087 - 506.41 Nick Lynch

Look at it. This is weird. I don't like this.

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506.43 - 507.712 Unknown

Why? That optic is pretty sweet.

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507.973 - 509.755 Nick Lynch

It is. I don't like your side camera.

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510.296 - 510.516 Unknown

Why?

510.536 - 511.998 Nick Lynch

I don't know. I don't like it.

513.299 - 514.241 Unknown

What don't you like about it?

514.401 - 518.246 Nick Lynch

I don't like it. There's two of you from two different angles, and I don't like it.

519.528 - 520.429 Savage

Your face is visible?

Chapter 4: What features does the new Sig Sauer P365 Fuse Comp offer?

621.637 - 621.777 Jeremy Pazderic

Mm-hmm.

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623.461 - 637.155 Unknown

Let's see. Croak over on X says, okay, we have the coupon code, but do we have the zip code? And do you pay extra for the little red flag on the side so the poster worker knows there's something to pick up? No. You can 3D print a model. You know what? I'm going to do that tomorrow, actually.

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637.396 - 640.679 Nick Lynch

That's actually a new battery cap with a flag. Yeah.

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641.74 - 642.501 Unknown

I'm going to do that tomorrow.

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642.521 - 644.443 Nick Lynch

Is there like a thread-on cap on the side?

645.905 - 646.445 Unknown

Yes, there is.

647.066 - 649.568 Nick Lynch

Oh, fucking 3D print a fucking cap with a flag.

650.449 - 656.047 Unknown

Yeah, like right there, the battery. Oh, Nick, are you on that page still? What kind of batteries does this take?

659.371 - 664.518 Jeremy Pazderic

Let's see. Let me go back. I'm in the cart real quick. Oh, man, the hiccups did not get better.

Chapter 5: What are the unique aspects of the Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 Sport?

739.59 - 752.569 Unknown

Totally get it. But yeah, GideonOptics.com, Mediator XL. Go check that out. I think you'll really like it. I really like it. Unless you want a little tiny red dot like a bitch, and then you may not like it. I really like it.

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752.629 - 770.213 Jeremy Pazderic

And that looks like they have a picture on the page of a really badass Matt 9 that takes MP5 mags and it's got gray and black camo. Very sweet. Is that yours? No, mine is just straight gray. Well, gray and black, but not camo.

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770.814 - 772.656 Unknown

I was about to be like, nice, you made it.

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773.918 - 792.122 Jeremy Pazderic

I do have it on my MP5 clone, though, and it is excellent for that. It is a large, bulky, heavy optic. But when you look through the window and you see how giant it is and how you can see everything, it's pretty awesome. And I think that's a great use for it.

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792.403 - 800.754 Unknown

Yeah, I do, too. I was going to put it on mine, but I decided not to just because I already have. Well, I've got mine all set up for night vision.

802.056 - 802.997 Jeremy Pazderic

Oh, yeah, that's fair.

803.078 - 814.41 Unknown

And I have, uh, I have my red dot mounted on top of my laser. So it would just be, it would be a lot. Honestly, I wasn't, I wasn't willing to go through all that work because I'm lazy.

816.253 - 817.894 Jeremy Pazderic

There is something to be said for that, you know?

820.177 - 829.587 Unknown

Yeah. So, uh, let's see, just looking through the chat to see if I missed anything. No, I don't think so. All right. So anyway, Gideon optics.com coupon code WLS is life saves you money.

Chapter 6: Why is the Barrett MRAD Covert considered a premium rifle?

1022.413 - 1044.844 Nick Lynch

This is the best analogy that I can think of. So the can has like 15,000 hit points and each shot does one damage, right? And that's on a ambient temperature suppressor. But then every shot where the suppressor is over 500 degrees does two points of damage. Every shot where the can is over 800 degrees does, you know, five points of damage.

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1044.864 - 1059.815 Nick Lynch

And every shot where the can is over a thousand degrees is doing 25 points of damage. So you can severely deplete that, that, that health bar, so to speak and, the hotter the suppressor gets because the hotter it gets, the softer the metal is, and the more damage per shot you're doing.

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1059.835 - 1084.557 Nick Lynch

So if you do mag dumps to the 5.56 or 3.08, even though it's rated for that and full auto, the further you get it up to that upper limit that they say, the more damage you're doing per shot to the baffles because now you're putting, quote, you know, you're hitting the baffles with the gas and the fire and the pressure of the rounds being fired on a much hotter barrel or a much hotter suppressor, which is now a softer material because it is...

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1084.537 - 1107.709 Nick Lynch

um because it's hotter so like if you just one round ambient temperature one round you probably get close to you know 15 maybe 20 000 rounds through that thing before it was really needed to be replaced or rebaffled or anything like that but the hotter you get it the more you abuse it and then the more you rounds put you put through it while it's you know extremely hot is you get less rounds per

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1107.942 - 1108.783 Nick Lynch

Does that make sense?

1108.943 - 1125.005 Unknown

Yeah, 100%. So now I'm thinking, okay, so now we put a little heat sensor that has Bluetooth connectivity inside of a suppressor wrap, and you can literally track how hot it gets and estimate.

1125.045 - 1130.353 Nick Lynch

You motherfuckers in the comments can make fun of me all you goddamn want, but everybody fucking understood that analogy.

1131.674 - 1135.84 Unknown

Matt L says, Jeremy over here talking like he's playing Pokemon on a Game Boy.

1136.41 - 1142.148 Nick Lynch

No, I was too old for that. It would have been more like a popular Game Boy game.

Chapter 7: What makes the Pedersoli Kodiak Survivalist stand out?

1440.195 - 1458.602 Unknown

Probably has a lot to do with the previously stated reason as well as running suppressors being common SOP for many, which brings up my question. Will we ever see more piston systems than DI? Do you think there will be a point where that happens? Is there much of a, that much of an advantage for that to be a likely scenario? Uh, thank you so much for, or thank you for your time. Dusky some notes.

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1459.965 - 1488.578 Nick Lynch

Uh, did you, did you notice we went back in time, uh, with like back like 2014, uh, there was lots of piston systems out there and now there's like two. on AR 15 specifically. Yeah. Um, like MCX doesn't count. And a lot of the, you know, non AR stuff, but like, you're talking about like quote unquote AR 15, like the, uh, the fucking HK four 16, uh, who LMT has one. Uh, what is that?

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1489.891 - 1510.262 Nick Lynch

jackal uh jackal is that that's not really ar-15 though that's a completely different like takes an ar-15 mag it doesn't lower trigger fire control group but a br brm 180 on an ar lower than ar mag isn't an ar-15 i mean it's driven but it's not an ar-15 neither is an mcx fair

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1510.867 - 1529.116 Jeremy Pazderic

So I think there are very distinct advantages to piston driven guns. However, I also think it's really interesting that none of them have been able to dethrone the AR and the direct impingement. We don't really see direct impingement and other systems. Pretty much everything else is piston driven.

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1529.276 - 1554.375 Jeremy Pazderic

Like, yes, there are other direct impingement designs and you can even be a like super nerd and argue that the AR 15 is actually a piston driven gun. Um, But all that bullshit aside, the AR-15 is like the only really commercially successful and mainstream direct impingement platform. And it's also the only one that nobody seems to be able to replace.

1555.517 - 1576.172 Nick Lynch

So they used to have a lot of piston systems, but they all sucked. And the reason they sucked is what they were doing is they were using a piston that went through the hole that the gas tube goes through. But the problem is that's not big enough for a piston, and they all bent eventually. They would all break. They tried long stroke. They tried short stroke. They tried two pieces.

1576.272 - 1599.898 Nick Lynch

They tried fucking springs in the middle. They tried recoil dampening systems here and there. But they all fucking broke. Until HK came out with the 416 and they actually made the dimensions of the upper bigger and put a bigger fucking piston through there. That's why that one actually works. And LMT copied that. I think there's a couple other companies out there that have gone that route.

1600.179 - 1623.962 Nick Lynch

But the problem is like the HK 416 piston system, it's got trademarked, patented. So you're not going to get somebody that you can't, whereas the AR-15 direct to Pigeon sends it. there's no fucking patent left on that motherfucker. That shit's been over for goddamn years. It's why everybody and their brother can make them. Um, it's why everybody and their brother makes Glock gen three clone too.

1624.783 - 1646.885 Nick Lynch

Um, the, the patents over with, it's just no more. Um, and which is why Glock keeps having new generations. That that's, that's a patent thing. Disney does the same thing. That's why the look of Mickey mouse changes like every 20 years. So they can keep the patent on that character. Um, Because it's a different stylize of Mickey.

Chapter 8: How can listeners submit their questions for the show?

1650.591 - 1678.33 Nick Lynch

Right. But the problem is running a piston system like the old SR556, the Core 15s. God, everybody. Ruger had one. Core 15 had one. Everybody and their fucking brother had a goddamn piston upper back in like 2014, 2015. But they all sucked. Yeah. Because running a piston through the direct impingement gas port in the upper receiver, it's just not thick enough. Look at the gas piston on an AK.

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1678.35 - 1694.292 Nick Lynch

The thing's like a fucking half-inch in diameter. It's not that big, but you get my point. She's a thick boy. Look at it on an M14. Look at it on pretty much anything with a goddamn piston. None of them are the size of a direct impingement gas tube.

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1696.137 - 1713.555 Nick Lynch

So that was the problem. So they got away from that. Well, until somebody comes up with something that doesn't infringe on HK's patent, there's no point. It's just not worth it. It's easier to just make a direct impingement. It's not that big of a deal to...

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1713.535 - 1740.218 Nick Lynch

you know and most people don't care and with buffer weights and you know you got a lot more buffer weights now than you used to and adjustable gas blocks there's new ones of those every fucking day and some people are thinking um i really like the rifle speed i was playing with the new faxon one uh that actually moves the gas tube back and forth that was super interesting that was super interesting i actually really like it yeah it's a really clever idea yeah

1740.198 - 1766.61 Nick Lynch

um so the problem is it's just the problem basically boils down to making that upper dimension bigger a lot of people aren't willing to do that because now you're talking proprietary and that makes the hk416 handguards proprietary and their barrel nut and their bolt are proprietary if i remember correctly and and all that's patented it's just not worth it for most companies if that patent

1767.029 - 1770.416 Jeremy Pazderic

It's still valid. How did Brownells do its 416 copy?

1771.438 - 1773.682 Nick Lynch

It had to have been licensed or something, I assume.

1773.722 - 1779.093 Unknown

I don't know. That is a weird question.

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