First Date Follow Up - The Jubal Show
John & Kristen: She Was Ghosting Him… Or Texting the Wrong Guy? 📱😳
02 Mar 2026
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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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John is on the phone today for a first date follow-up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Kirsten. So in a second, we're going to call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date. But first, John, how long has it been since you talked to Kirsten? It's been a couple weeks. One week, I guess. It feels like more than that. But yeah, it's just one week.
Okay. Yeah. Uh, maybe it's too early. I don't think so. Well, I mean, you usually kind of get, you usually kind of get a feeling. Have you been trying to hit her up and she's just not responding? I've been hitting her up and yeah, we had a great date and then, you know, she replied right away afterwards. And then, yeah, it's been ghosting.
So I know you guys do this, but getting taller and find out what happened. Okay. Well, tell us about the date. Um, Sure. So it matters for mutual friends. And I liked her immediately. Like she's focused and she's ambitious. Like she's like a... and a working girl, a working woman. Maybe rephrase that, John. Call her a working girl. You look like a working girl. Well, actually, we watched that.
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Chapter 2: What was the date like between John and Kirsten?
All right. She has not responded to me now, except for that one text after the date. Okay. John is on the phone and John is getting ghosted by Kirsten. So in a second, we're going to call her and see if she'll tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him a second date. But first, John, why don't you break down your date again for us real quick? Sure. I met Kirsten through mutual friends.
I feel like we hit it off immediately. Our first date was like a cozy movie night in, which was really fun. But the whole night, she's basically texting with a guy named, or excuse me, a person named Kenneth on the phone. I don't know who that is. And she's basically been incommunicado since then. She hasn't responded to me. Okay. Is that a good summary? I think so. It was pretty good, John.
She was texting with another dude while you were there. Yeah, that does something. All right. Are you ready for us to call her? Oh, I don't know. Yes. Let's do it. Here we go. Hello? Hi, may I speak to Kirsten, please? This is Kirsten. Hey, Kirsten, how are you? This is a radio show. It's called The Jubal Show. Hi, Kirsten. I'm Nina. Hi, I'm Victoria. And my name's Jubal. What?
This is a radio show? Yeah. Have you ever heard of The Jubal Show before? I have, yes. Sweet. This is so weird. Okay. Well, we're calling you today because we got an email about you. How about me? Okay. We do a segment on the show that's called the first date follow up.
That's where if you go out on a date with somebody and you end up ghosting them, that person can email us to get you on the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. Okay. Okay. Have any idea who would have emailed us? Is it Cole? No. No? No, that's not it. Do you want to try again? Is it Kenneth? No, it's not Kenneth. You want to take a shot at number three? Okay, then it's got to be John.
Yes, it is John. John emailed us. Apparently you're doing quite a bit of ghosting, but John is the one. Where are you meeting that? Would you mind telling us why you're ghosting John? I didn't think I was ghosting John at all. No? I mean, I texted him after movie night and I left town for work and I told him about this. Like I travel a lot with my job.
I like, um, you know, I deal with a lot of high pressure investments and super long days. And so I wasn't like ghosting him. I told him like I had to leave for work. And so, but honestly, he started texting me a lot. Hey, Kirsten. Hey. Hey, yeah, yeah, I'm here. Hi, Kirsten. Kirsten, that's John. He's actually on the phone and wants to talk to you. Yeah. Oh, crap. Okay. Hi, yeah. Hi, how are you?
John? Hey, I'm doing okay. Wow. So... So... Yeah? I felt like you did ghost me. I mean... you know, texted you once and then you sort of stopped. I know you said for work, but you know, no, I did not. I, I told you that I was traveling for work. I texted you right after our date. Uh, no, you never texted me. Yes, I did. I texted you that I was going out.
I texted you that I was going out of town for work. And I told you that my days were super busy. I can't just be texting back and forth. And I was hoping you understood that. I mean, we just had one date. And then I said, hey, I'm leaving out of town. And then you were like texting me like three texts a day.
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Chapter 3: What happened during the cozy movie night?
Kind of like a lot. I mean, I did not text you three times a day. But also you did not text me that you were going out of town for work.
you didn't tell me that you have been texting me three times today and i did text you that i was going out for work this is i can't believe you're just lying about this this is really strange i just no this doesn't make any sense i would not text three times today i text you once you know i can send you back your text so you can read them do you want me to send you those yeah i'd love
Sure, yeah. I want to know, too. Here we go. John, you're sure you haven't been texting her three times a day? Yes, I'm sure. Yeah, sorry. I just sent him the screenshots, by the way. Okay. Did you just send it? Because I don't have a text right now. I just sent them. Are you sending it to the right person? I don't have anything. Oh, my gosh. I don't have a text from you.
You just texted me back and it says, oh, finally you respond. Hi. What? Dude. No, I didn't. Seriously. I don't know who that is. That's not me. I don't know who that is. That's not me. Who are you texting? Okay. How do you spell John? I mean. How do I spell John? J-O-N. Oh, God. Okay. I've been testing a different John. What? Oh, no. What? That's a guy that I actually wanted to go.
And you just sent him a screenshot. He made his day. Oh, my God. What? Girl. Oh, my God. How many people are you ghosting? I'm not trying to ghost you. I'm not trying to ghost you. I'm not trying to ghost the other John. I'm not trying to ghost you. I just told you I just went out of town. My gosh. That's good news. Oh, my God. I thought I was losing my mind. So I'm the better John?
Hey, that's a good thing. Oh, my God. I guess yes. All right, sweet. Well, then, Kirsten, would you like to go on a second date with the right John? We'll pay for it. Oh my goodness. Yes, we can go out on a second date. Make sure everybody's labeled in your phone correctly first and then, you know, watch your back, girl. Yes, the better John without an H. Okay, thank you.
Jubal's first date follow-up. In the middle of the night, Saskia awoke in a haze. Her husband, Mike, was on his laptop. What was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever. I said, I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing. And immediately, the mask came off. You're supposed to be safe. That's your home. That's your husband.
Listen to Betrayal Season 5 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season 2 podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumpride became the victim of a random crime. The perpetrator was sentenced to 99 years until a confession changed everything. I was a monster.
Listen to Burden of Guilt Season 2 on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come check this. iHeart and TikTok have come together to create something new. I love it. Where the world of TikTok meets your playlist. Three words that will change your life. iHeart TikTok Radio. The biggest hits across iHeart Radio. What's trending for you on TikTok?
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Chapter 4: What did John notice about Kirsten's texting during the date?
Everyone needs to take care of their mental health, even running back B. John Robinson. When I'm on the field and feeling the pressure, I usually just take a deep breath. When I'm just breathing and seeing what's in front of me, everything just slows down. It just makes me feel great before I run the play. Just like Bijan, we all need a strong mental game on and off the field.
Make a game plan for your mental health at loveyourmindplaybook.org. Love your mind. Brought to you by the Huntsman Mental Health Foundation, the Arthur M. Blank Family Foundation, and the Ad Council. This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed human.