In this week’s Flightless Bird, David and Rob look at emo music in the United States, from its origins to where it is today. Rob presents David with a lesson in emo bands and reaches out to them to ask whether they consider themselves emo or not. David plays some of his old emo reporting from back in New Zealand in the mid 00s, before attending an infamous Emo Night event in LA where he talks to founders Morgan Freed and T.J. Petracca. They also interview Vic Fuentes from Pierce the Veil and discuss the war between punks and emos that broke out in Mexico City in 2008. Email us: [email protected] Merch: www.flightlessbirdpod.com LINKS: Rob’s emo playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7zwXnoiAe2Ja18nhvnSsCY?si=e5c8ca80a9a2434eTheme song performance: Nick Thomas of The Spill Canvas https://www.thespillcanvas.net In regards to last week’s Autism episode, some other spicy writing from David: - Prosopagnosia - face blindness: https://www.webworm.co/p/superrecogniser and https://www.webworm.co/p/prosopagnosia - Aphantasia: https://www.webworm.co/p/aphantasia - Telepathic Children Do Not Exist: https://www.webworm.co/p/telepathytapes - My memory and ADHD: https://www.webworm.co/p/memoryworms Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is emo music and its cultural significance?
And a fun backstory. I think a tornado ripped through his town yesterday. Oh, God. And he lost power. And he just got that finished like 20 minutes ago.
Oh, that's insane. Is he okay? Yeah. That's also very American, the whole tornado thing. That doesn't happen in New Zealand where someone's like, I couldn't deliver the theme song because a tornado ripped through my neighborhood.
Yeah, when I was finishing the last take.
I mean, it's amazing he even did it. Yeah. Okay. I'm excited about this episode because I also feel like you know a lot about this. I know less about it, but I'm eternally fascinated.
I feel like almost out of every topic, I don't want to say an expert at it because I think the term can be debated. Yeah. But I know a lot about this era. That was growing up in the suburbs of Chicago. Right. A lot of emo music, I think, came from there.
My friend Amy is in a band and she's been in LA forever. And I started just quizzing her about emo music because I knew it is debatable. And this is how that conversation went. Okay.
Say the word emo where it came from. Are you recording me? Fuck off. No. No. No.
She got really angry at me when I was secretly recording her, but she went on this extended rant about the origins of where emo came from, and I wish I'd been able to capture it, but she got very angry.
Do you have a loose... I couldn't follow.
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Chapter 2: Who are the key bands that define emo music?
That's amazing.
That informed a lot, too, was, like, seeing these bands from the neighborhood. Yeah. They were a little bit older than me, usually, but that we'd see at, like, the VFW or the Teen Center, they'd play shows. Fall Out Boy was one of those that, like, seeing them come from, like, watching them play at Tower Records and the record shop down the street and the VFW was...
to then, like, they're on Jimmy Kimmel and TRL.
Yeah, they're touring these, like, massive venues in New Zealand at the time.
I think it was informative to just see, like, oh, that can happen.
It's possible that you can work hard at something and suddenly you will be huge. And also, yeah, breaking out of, like, a small town. Yeah. Yeah, that's amazing. So, Spill Canvas, he was another one. Thank you, Spill Canvas, for doing our theme song.
The truth is that I've never fallen
Yeah, man with a guitar.
Yeah.
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