Heartbreak for England, again: World Cup Daily – video

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Previously titled “Heartbreak for England, again - World Cup Daily” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 2, 2026

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Unknown 0:00
This is The Guardian.
Max Rushden 0:13
Hello and welcome to the Guardian Football Weekly. You'd started to hope, hadn't you? We'd all started to hope. But in the end, we tried to do what we did against Mexico and defending a lead against Mexico isn't defending a lead against Neil and Messi and defending a lead against Argentina. You just felt it was coming. First Enzo given too much space on the edge of the box. He struck it beautifully and then McAllister hit the post. It fell to Messi and his cross was perfect. Lautaro couldn't miss. The inquest will begin. Tuchel's changes were defensive. They invited pressure, too much pressure. England stopped playing. We'd taken the lead, Rodgers' brilliant cross for Anthony Gordon.

What happened in England vs Argentina semi-final and why does it feel like heartbreak again?

Max Rushden 0:44
The first half had been tight and foully, mainly Giuliano Simeone, but England had the chance, we had it, and we lost. We've been here before, we know how this goes, we can process defeat, we go again. The final then, Argentina v Spain, don't care. This is today's Guardian Football Weekly. on the panel today. Jonathan Wilson, welcome.
Jonathan Wilson 1:06
Thank you very much. John Bruin.
Max Rushden 1:08
Well, I'm okay. John Bruin, hello. Hi. Over in the UK, Nikki Bandini, welcome. And that's the panel. Oh, Barry Glendening, hello. Hello, Max. Colm says, tell Barry to enjoy the podcast. John says, just give the microphone to Baz. Connor says, go on, Baz, finish them. Sam says, someone feed Barry some infected lettuce. And Bobby says, who should start at wing-back for Ireland's next game against Kosovo? Which seems like a good place to start, doesn't it? As we walked out of the bar, there was this apocalyptic rainstorm, which felt pretty apt. John? Oh, shit it.
John Brewin 1:42
Yeah, we, as you say, we go again. Desolation is the feeling. And the inquest begins, and it feels to me as though Thomas Tuchel, in the immediate aftermath, is going to take a lot of the blame. I don't think he can have the full blame, but I said to you, didn't I, too early for the Gordon? I think you ignored me at the time. I think we were just too happy. But I just felt half an hour of trying to do that. It's too negative. There was no outboard for England and Argentina. Well, Lionel Messi has played against teams playing in low block before. He's quite, at 39 years old, he's been down this road before. And so he finds the little spaces, the little half spaces, and he does what he always does. And England do what they always do too.
Jonathan Wilson 2:41
Yeah, I mean, the switch to the back three, at the time, we were saying, this makes no sense. This isn't us being wise after the event. This is what we were saying at the time. When Tuchel did that against Mexico, okay, at the time, I was concerned by that. But you could see afterwards, okay, actually, Mexico didn't have anything other than chucking the ball in the box. Even against Norway, they're not going to be able to find those little pockets that Messi finds. And I think in those two games, it was sort of justified by playing at altitude, playing in incredible humidity. Well, conditions in Atlanta weren't particularly difficult. I don't understand why England got themselves in a position where that seemed to tickle, the only thing they could do.
Jonathan Wilson 3:23
Why was there no out ball? Now, if Harry Kane drops deep, and I think it's a good thing he drops deep, I think that's one of the key parts of his game, it's what leads to England's goal. If he's going to do that, you have to work out another way of holding the ball at the pitch, because... There was just wave to wave of attack. And that had begun before the switch to the back three. And the switch to the back three just sort of reified that as that's the way this game's going to be. And there were so many chances. And it wasn't just two goals. There was, yeah, Pickford made two or three very good saves. There was a few headers. And then Argentina could hurt England both by crosses into the box and by Messi sort of darting around them.
Max Rushden 4:00
So... Yeah, and you feel, Nicky, that even when it went 1-1, there was just panic. And you can't panic when Messi is around.
Nicky Bandini 4:08
Yeah, Jonathan talked about Messi finding pockets of space.

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