631. Will "3 Summers of Lincoln" Make It to Broadway?

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What is 'Three Summers of Lincoln' about?

Narrator 0:05

In the first episode of this series, we heard about the creation of a new musical called Three Summers of Lincoln, as in Abraham Lincoln. The show is set during the Civil War and it centers around Lincoln's relationship with the abolitionist Frederick Douglass. The producers Alan Shore and Richard Winkler commissioned the playwright Joe DiPietro to write the script. He brought along Daniel Watts as his co-lyricist and then the composer Crystal Monet-Hall. After three years of development, the Lincoln team held some workshop performances in New York that persuaded them they were ready to give the show its world premiere at the La Jolla Playhouse in San Diego, or at least almost ready.

Who is involved in the musical's creation?

0:46

I just felt the narrative at the beginning wasn't as sharp as the rest of the show. That's DiPietro. The challenge in a musical like this is you're telling an epic story. I mean, how many different versions of the Civil War could you write? There needs to be a spine to it. How can we have the spine as clear as quickly as possible? We felt, for instance, that the character of Mary Lincoln, she wasn't in the score as much, especially given the actress who is going to play that role.

Narrator 1:15

That actress is Carmen Cusack, who has twice been nominated for a Tony Award on Broadway. And so DiPietro had Daniel Watts and Crystal Monet Hall come to his apartment on the Upper West Side to work on a new song for Mary Lincoln, a duet with Abraham. Hall played a demo she'd made on her own, a song called Twelve Rooms in Springfield.

1:38

Alive in twelve rooms. Alive in twelve rooms.

Narrator 1:45

The song has the Lincolns thinking about going back home to Illinois if Abraham loses re-election for the presidency, which, considering how badly the war is going, seems likely.

1:56

That was actually good to hear again.

Narrator 2:04

The three of them are sitting around DiPietro's dining room table. They've got laptops open to a Google Doc and to RhymeZone.com, the modern lyricist's best friend. They work together with the ease and trust of collaborators who've by now spent hundreds of hours like this.

2:22

It could be something like, does he envision his life in Springfield? Like in what's there in Springfield? Yeah. Like old dusty roads and grief.

Michael Rushton 2:32

I'm trying to find a thing he would, what would he be doing? Who would he be working with in the office? He'd be settling lawsuits with farmers, right? You know, like he's a country lawyer. Collection law was a collection lawyer who handled promissory notes, which were common in frontier Illinois.

Narrator 2:46

They spend a few minutes searching for the right word before Watts comes up with it.

Michael Rushton 2:51

So disputes, that's the word I was looking for.