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Freakonomics Radio

Can Academic Fraud Be Stopped? (Update)

02 Jan 2025

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3.268 - 30.628 Stephen Dubner

Hey there, it's Stephen Dubner. This is the second and final part of a series we are revisiting from last year. Stick around for an update at the end of the episode. Last week's episode was called Why is there so much fraud in academia? We heard about the alleged fraudsters. We heard about the whistleblowers and then a lawsuit against the whistleblowers.

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31.69 - 36.895 Joe Simmons

My very first thoughts were like, oh my God, how's anyone going to be able to do this again?

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38.116 - 44.723 Stephen Dubner

We heard about feelings of betrayal from a co-author who was also a longtime friend of the accused.

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45.283 - 54.753 Max Bazerman

We once even got to the point of our two families making an offer to a developer on a project to have houses connected to each other.

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55.697 - 60.466 Stephen Dubner

We also heard an admission from inside the house that the house is on fire.

61.108 - 67.26 Leif Nelson

If you were just a rational agent acting in the most self-interested way possible as a researcher in academia, I think you would cheat.

69.192 - 85.765 Stephen Dubner

That episode was a little gossipy, for us at least. Today, we are back to wonky, but don't worry, it is still really interesting. Today, we look into the academic research industry, and believe me, it is an industry.

86.525 - 90.068 Max Bazerman

And there is misconduct everywhere, from the universities.

90.648 - 97.053 Ivan Oransky

The most likely career path for anyone who has committed misconduct is a long and fruitful career.

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