Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is Fresh Air. I'm Terry Gross. If you're not familiar with the comedy of my guest, Cristela Alonso, I think the best way of introducing her is with a clip. But first, I should set it up. Cristela is Mexican-American, the daughter of Mexican immigrants. Her mother was living in Texas, undocumented, and pregnant with Cristela, her fourth child.
when she left her abusive husband and raised her four children on her own. Cristela grew up in a Texas border town. This clip, like much of Cristela's comedy, is autobiographical.
My family, we're from South Texas, you know? We're from Mexico.
Chapter 2: What was Cristela Alonzo's childhood like in South Texas?
That's South Texas. It's South Texas. It's kind of South Texas. It's like South Texas. I grew up in a mixed status family. If you guys don't know what that is, that means that half of us were documented, half of us were undocumented, and we're not telling you which one's which. Guess what? We all look alike. We didn't have a lot of money growing up.
We had to share a bathroom and a birth certificate.
That was from Cristela Alonso's first Netflix comedy special from 2017 called Lower Classy. It was followed by her 2022 special Middle Classy. Her new one, Upper Classy, is now streaming on Netflix. You can tell from the titles that class and money have been defining issues in her life because she grew up in extreme poverty.
For the first seven years of her life, Christella, her mother, and three siblings were squatters in an abandoned diner in Texas with a toilet on the outside.
Christella managed to get into a theater program in high school, win theater awards, study theater in college, but had to put her own dreams and ambitions on hold and quit college twice to care for her mother and help her sister raise her children. Eventually, Cristela broke through by performing across the country on college campuses.
In 2014, she became the first Latina to create, write, and star in a network TV show. Her semi-autobiographical sitcom, Cristela, ran for one season on ABC. Cristela Alonso, welcome to Fresh Air. It is a pleasure to have you on the show.
It is so good to be here. And I love hearing you sum up my life because I think that sometimes we forget the things that we have gone through in our own lives. So to hear it from someone else is kind of a really wonderful reminder.
Oh, good. Can we talk about what the clip was about was that half of your family was undocumented? Can we talk about that without worrying about your family being deported now?
Yes, we can. They're all citizens now. So that's very exciting.
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Chapter 3: How did Cristela's family navigate the challenges of being undocumented?
to protect her. And we would have to play along because we wanted to make sure that she was safe. How worried were you at the time? I was terrified. You always wanted to make sure that you did your job well enough to where you were hoping that your mother wouldn't be taken away from you. And I was an American citizen. And it's weird because
To have that much power as a little kid and that much stress. And I think that's why with what is happening now, living in Los Angeles and seeing the ICE raids, it reminds me of me being a child trying to protect my mother. And I had forgotten that. What has it been like for you recently in L.A.?
And what was it like for you when the National Guard troops and Marines were just showing up in L.A.? It was kind of unbelievable.
You ask yourself, you live in the United States and you live in Los Angeles, one of the biggest cities in the country, and it's happening here. So there was a moment of disbelief. And then once you realize that it was happening, I personally started remembering the immigration sweeps that happened in the 80s in my hometown, where a lot of times immigrants
You would not see your friends anymore because their parents had been deported. Their immigration raid came and like just deported people at a factory, at a company, what have you.
You grew up in a border town on the American side of the Texas border, and the town was just about all Mexican and Mexican-American. And you used to cross over the border a lot to visit family on the other side in Mexico. What was crossing the border like then? This was in the 1980s during the Reagan administration. Yes.
Back then, you didn't need a passport. You needed a birth certificate. Passports kind of became a required thing later on when I became kind of, I want to say around a preteen teenager. You could just pass back and forth as long as you had the birth certificate. A lot of times when you're a child,
You're crossing the border and the Border Patrol agents want to ask you all of these questions to make sure that you are who you are, that you're not someone from Mexico that they're trying to bring in, you know, quote unquote, illegally. So they ask you for your name. They ask you how old you are. And then they kind of go off of your answers and decide, what more am I going to ask her?
So as a little kid, it's what's your favorite school subject? Who's the name of your favorite teacher? What's the name of your elementary school? And it's all of these questions. And I remember going through the border one time with a cousin of mine who's older than me, and he was a little bit on the spectrum. And had trouble answering a couple of questions.
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Chapter 4: What impact did Cristela's upbringing have on her comedy?
And they detained him. And we were held over for a long time. And that is something really heavy to deal with. But at the same time, it became kind of your normal thing, your normal way of life that you were so used to it that, again, you didn't realize how big it was until later, until you got older.
Your mother raised you, your sister, and two brothers, that's four kids, on her own, and she was on her own because she left her abusive husband. Would you describe how she ended up being married to him against her will?
Yes. So my mom grew up in a little village, in a little ranchito in Mexico called El Sancarron. Back then, it was like in the middle of nowhere. And my mom grew up very Catholic, and it was this thing where her parents were very strict, her mother was very strict, and people couldn't date.
You actually had a lot of arranged marriages a lot of times where girls would be engaged to older men, you know, because the men had all the power. And the men, if there wasn't an arranged marriage, the men had all the power where they could kidnap the women and take them from their house. Do you mean literally kidnap? Yes.
So the women, once they were taken from their home, they were basically this man's property. That's how my mom and my dad ended up together. It was this culture, this environment where the women were submissive to the men. My mom and my dad got married through the church, so they couldn't divorce. You know, my mom left my dad, but they never divorced because they were Catholic.
That was how much my mom couldn't do it. So she stayed married to him. But after they got married, because he was a man, he would drink a lot, be very physically abusive to her, had another family. That's the thing that made my mom leave my dad when she discovered. The church doesn't approve of that. Absolutely. You know, absolutely.
So it was this thing where, you know, she became the first woman in her family to leave her husband. You never left your husband. You didn't divorce. You didn't separate. You stuck through and you dealt with it. And she decided to leave him with her. I mean, this woman had like a second grade education, couldn't speak the language here.
And she decided that that was better than staying married to my dad. So this is at the point where they're already in the U.S.? They had been coming back and forth from the U.S. and Mexico. So they would come here and then they'd go back to Mexico. They were trying to establish a life here, but then they would go back. For a couple years. It's one of those. It's really off and on.
That's the thing that I think is one of those perspectives in immigration that we don't talk about enough is immigrants come to this country mostly out of a need. It's in search of this opportunity that they don't have at home. But if my parents could have made it happen, if they could have had a decent life, they would have stayed in their home.
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Chapter 5: How did Cristela Alonso become a voice for immigrant rights?
No, we were very private. We didn't really have a lot of friends outside of our family. We were very insulated.
And I never told anybody where I lived. It must be so interesting to be on stage doing comedy about all these horrible things from your childhood that you could have been in legal jeopardy for, that a lot of your family could have been deported for. And now you've found a way on stage to make that funny and, of course, to make it very public.
I think it's so necessary to talk about it, though, because I realize that people need to know that despite how I grew up, that I was able to go to school. I was able to be a great student.
Chapter 6: What was Cristela's experience with the White House and activism?
I kind of wanted to show people that the narrative that is presented about someone like me or like my family wasn't true. for everybody. A lot of times, if you're not familiar with the Latino community or namely like Mexican-Americans or anything, when I moved to college, I went to college in St. Louis for a year when I first moved. And it was the first time that I realized I was a minority.
And it wasn't until I moved away from my Mexican little border town that I realized that People were going to treat me the way that they thought I should be treated based on their assumptions on who I am. Meaning that if they were unfamiliar with me, they would ask me a lot of tropey, stereotypical, offensive questions that I would have to answer because they wanted to get to know me.
What kind of questions?
They wanted to know how I was smart.
How could that be possible?
Yeah. People thought I was lying about how poor I grew up because I spoke so well.
Let me stop you for a second. Is that because you watched so much TV when you were a kid? You had to stay home. TV was your friend. Music was your friend. You learned a lot about America from TV. Is that where you learned like this perfect English, no accent kind of sound?
My mom had this rule. My mom was a Spanish speaker, never spoke English. She had a rule at home. We couldn't speak English at home. We had to speak Spanish so that she knew she could understand everything that was being said in the house. Having said that, when I was a kid, I loved TV so much, I started imitating what I heard on TV, the voices. The accents, everything.
That's how I learned English. But when I was a kid, I loved shows like Murphy Brown. I don't know why. And I think the closest thing that I could understand is my mom used to make me translate the news to her as a little kid. So when I was a little kid, I'm translating all of these big things, these big ideas to my mom.
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