Guillermo Del Toro would ‘rather die’ than use generative AI
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
This is Fresh Air. I'm David Bianculli.
What inspired Guillermo del Toro's adaptation of Frankenstein?
Guillermo del Toro's film Frankenstein is nominated for nine Academy Awards, including Best Picture, Supporting Actor, Cinematography, Original Score, and Adapted Screenplay. Del Toro wrote and directed this new reimagining of Frankenstein, which takes inspiration from the 1931 film Frankenstein, one of the most enduring horror monster films, and from Mary Shelley's 1818 novel Frankenstein. In Del Toro's movie, the final part of the story is told from the creature's point of view. Here's a clip from it, in which the creature, played by Oscar nominee Jacob Elordi, is shot and left for dead by hunters.
There was silence again, and then, merciless silence.
How long did I die for? I do not know. But I saw my injuries healed. The cold winter air stung in my lungs.
I felt lonelier than ever. Because for every man there was but one remedy to all pain. Death.
How does del Toro's film differ from previous adaptations of Frankenstein?
A gift you too had denied me.
Some of the themes of del Toro's new film echo themes with which he's been obsessed for years. Misunderstood creatures, men who behave like monsters, father-son relationships, religion, empathy, cruelty, misguided scientific experiments that take a terrible turn. Also, what del Toro describes as the uneasy truce between science and religion, machine and man, and the realization that you are inescapably alone. His other movies include Pan's Labyrinth, The Shape of Water, which won four Oscars, including Best Picture and Best Director, Nightmare Alley, a reimagining of Pinocchio filmed in stop-motion animation, and two Hellboy films. A significant event in del Toro's life was the kidnapping of his father in Mexico.
After del Toro helped raise a million-dollar ransom, his father was released. In Del Toro's Frankenstein, Oscar Isaac plays Dr. Victor Frankenstein, the surgeon who wants to create new life, a new man built out of body parts from the newly dead. The creature he makes is played by Jacob Elordi, who's best known for co-starring in Euphoria, and who also played Elvis Presley in the movie Priscilla. His newest role is as Heathcliff, opposite Margot Robbie as Kathy, in the new movie version of Wuthering Heights. Del Toro grew up in Guadalajara, Mexico, and has been living in L.A. since the late 90s.
Guillermo del Toro, welcome to Fresh Air. Congratulations on your new film, which brings together so much of your other work. And I know it's a dream come true for you to do your own version of Frankenstein. You first saw the movie, the 1931 movie, which is totally different from the book and your new movie. But that movie really had a hold on you. Tell us why it had such meaning for you.
Well, it was curiously enough, on a Sunday after Catholic Mass, we came back home and then we would watch horror movies on Channel 6 all day. And it was the first time I saw Frankenstein. And the moment Boris Karloff crossed the threshold, I had an epiphany. I had a St. Paul on the road to Damascus kind of experience. I realized I understood my faith or my dogmas better through Frankenstein than through Sunday Mass. I saw the resurrection of the flesh, the Immaculate Conception, ecstasy, stigmata. Everything made sense, and I decided at age seven that the creature of Frankenstein was going to be my personal avatar and my personal messiah. It was a really profound transformation, and it made an impression that lasted my whole life.
There's three parts of the movie. There's the introduction. Yes. Then there's the story told pretty much from Dr. Frankenstein's point of view. Mm-hmm. And then the final part is told from the creature's point of view. Yes. I really wanted to read Mary Shelley's novel, which I've never read before speaking to you again. Mm-hmm. And I wasn't able to find the time to do it. Yes. I did, however, read your introduction to, like, I think it's a 2021 annotated version of your novel. Mm-hmm. But anyways, in Mary Shelley's original telling of the story, is there a chapter that's from the creature's point of view or is that just something you wanted to do?
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:02
2
What inspired Guillermo del Toro's adaptation of Frankenstein?
0:02–1:37
3
How does del Toro's film differ from previous adaptations of Frankenstein?
1:37–8:58
4
What themes from Frankenstein resonate with del Toro's personal experiences?
8:58–16:07
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How does del Toro's childhood influence his filmmaking?
16:07–44:33
Speakers
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